@Skyler, I'd like to keep trying till the end of the year when I turn 45, though the cost is getting too much for us. we're trying naturally (on tww now), then the frostie in march, naturally and will see what RPA says (cheaper option) in may. on the phone they said I might only have 1-2 fresh cycles there. I fear they might be of little use and we might as well just try naturally for a miracle. but will see how we go then. I'm hoping the frostie is our bub as it was from the first and best cycle. am trying to think about just being a good aunty as it might be the only option. still not sure about DE.