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    I am only going to do this next cycle then will pgd (that will be 4 cycles). I should hopefully have 5 for testing. I couldn't give up as I knew there was something else and I wanted to get tested to see why I couldn't get pregnant. That has led me to being diagnosed with immune issues - which means that my first 5 transfers were never going to work, even if I'd had normal embies. So for me the logical step is testing the embies and making sure they are normal. If not we'll probably look at donor eggs.

    Our first 5 cycles were at westmead in Sydney which is not for profit so very little $$ out of pocket. It's a different story at ivfa where we are out of pocket more so I'm keen work out pretty soon what we are working with!

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    @Skyler Hi Luv...We were only going to go one more Cycle if our last one was a BFN. We had one more vial of DP's TESA'd sperm on ice to use and that would've been it for us.

    The reasons why we were going to stop was finances and age. To keep on going would've meant another TESA procedure for a start (DP had them done on Cycle 1 with our previous FS and Cycle 4 with Wazza. Both times we got enough to freeze for the extra Cycles) and I know he and I would've kept going until we used up any extra vials we got as we wouldn't have wanted to waste them which would've meant more time and more $. We don't have PH and are lower income earners so it was costing us an absolute fortune every time we cycled (which is why it took so long to do the last 2 Cycles as we had to save up again) and the low cost clinic that's under the same umbrella as out FC wouldn't take us on as they wouldn't deal with DP's frozen sperm (don't get me started on that either...A$$holes!! Another reason we went to Wazza too) nor would the IVF dept at the local hospital...Cut off up here in the public health system is 38!! They obviously think anyone over that isn't worth bothering with... F.U. QLD Health in that regard...Hmmmmph!!

    We had a cut off in terms of age we were going to stop trying and $ and that's what it came down to. As you can see from my sig, we produced 24 embryo's and transferred 12 of those to get our BFP, I think if we had to go again we would've at least had another 1 to transfer, so if we couldn't get pregnant after minimally 13 OE embryo's transferred, then we probably never would. DE wasn't an option for us either for many reasons as well with $ being one of the main one's.

    I'm surprised about the doctor's remarks regarding 3-4 Cycles. That might be true for younger women (all things being equal) but for our age group I believe it's more in the 6-8 stim Cycles if I remember what @emski72 told me?? I think looking at your "For's" and "Against's" you've got more reason to go on maybe for a couple more Cycles than you do to stop, but in saying that, I agree with @Petal40 that you will know when enough's enough whether that be from deciding with your DH where to draw the line in the sand and that's it or else it might just be an intuitive thing where you just feel that you're done.

    It is hard to remain optimistic sometimes Luv, I remember feeling that way myself particularly on Cycle 3 and 4 but when we did Cycle 5 DP and I were already starting to come to terms with just being a family of 2 (well 4 when you add our feather and fin babies into the equation,which we do). We didn't go into it thinking it would fail outright, but we prepared for the worst and hoped for the best anyway knowing that we were only going to try once more and that was that which made the possibility of another BFN slightly more bearable than the other times. I guess what I'm trying to say is that DP and I had already begun the process of detaching ourselves emotionally from the dream of being parents when we went into Cycle 5.

    I don't know if this has been any help to you whatsoever Luv but you know I'll be on the sidelines cheering you on (@ all the other Lovelies) as there's nothing I want more then to see every single one of you get your BFP's

    P.S... @emski72 Could you pls clarify if 6-8 stimm's was what your FS told you was the norm for us 40+ Legends to get a BFP with our OE's??? Thanks Luv
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    Oh Skyler, it's such a vexed question. I hope you find the answer and if you do leave Ivf you know you tried your very best.

    When I was doing IVF for DS2 we were going to try 4 stim cycles and then move to DE, we thought 3 to start with as that was the average. But as they thought I ovulated before the egg pick with the first two we sort of discounted them. I was already looking for a donor and had spoken to a few and then we had success with cycle three with my OE, I was 40 and 2 months when we conceived DS2. I think having a plan helps, but be flexible.

    We'll try this embryo and one stim and then that's it for us. We are blessed and it's too hard for us emotionally, financially and for our family.

    What ever you choose to do, you have my support and I hope we can help you through it.

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    @Skyler I know this is a short reply but someone said to me once you know its time to stop when it is easier to stop than it is to keep going. ...does that make sense in a wierd kind of way?

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    Hi girls - firstly Butterfly so sorry to read your update - totally shocking! Wishing you all the best with being PUPO - you never bloody know in this game what's going to happen so hang in there and all the best in the TWW.
    Yep BiB, Lynn said statistically you'd be looking at around 6 cycles over 40 to get a BFP. I got mine on my 6th but unfortunately it resulted in MC.

    Em x

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    Oh Skyler, it's such a vexed question. I hope you find the answer and if you do leave Ivf you know you tried your very best.

    When I was doing IVF for DS2 we were going to try 4 stim cycles and then move to DE, we thought 3 to start with as that was the average. But as they thought I ovulated before the egg pick with the first two we sort of discounted them. I was already looking for a donor and had spoken to a few and then we had success with cycle three with my OE, I was 40 and 2 months when we conceived DS2. I think having a plan helps, but be flexible.

    We'll try this embryo and one stim and then that's it for us. We are blessed and it's too hard for us emotionally, financially and for our family.

    What ever you choose to do, you have my support and I hope we can help you through it.

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    Sorry for the multi post

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    It might have been 5 cycles not four

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    Omg butterfly what a shock ! At least now you know I guess and can alter your plan accordingly. Good luck with this one. @Skyler, I will keep going until all options are exhausted or I feel I'm too old. I'll probably get too old first
    I only have 4 DE frosties left anyway so if I use them all I'll have done 13 cycles. By then I'll be 43 and that's getting on the verge of too old for me. I keep thinking I've come this far that if I stop it will feel like the whole thing has been a waste. It got to the point with my own eggs that the clinic were saying I'd have about a 5% chance of success and all my googling told me I had about the same chance of falling naturally so I figured I was just wasting money then. I went on the donor list figuring we'd try naturally in the meantime and by the time a donor came along my eggs' days would be over. Good luck with your decision.

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    @Butterfly39, sorry to hear this. you're sounding OK about it all though? having some closure is good. I hope you have some clarity for thinking about next steps. I hope you won't need the DE as this frozen one is your bub. it very well might be!
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