Also, I see no problem discussing organisations and their decisions, after all they are public servants, we are their stakeholders. And lastly, it may be that hey worked within the legislative framework, but not all laws are good, maybe there needs to be a change.
I just can't fathom how anyone can all be like "it's their laws, they knew what they were doing" what people like that are effectively saying is, even though they breach human rights and have an unjust, biased and corrupt system, we shouldn't say anything about it. I find that odd. Iran puts gay people to death by public hanging, that is their law, so is that ok too?
I have not once said i think they deserve to die. I have not once said the death penalty isn't an abuse of human rights. I have not once said it is ok so live in the 1800's when it comes to such a disregard of human life.
The law cannot please everyone. The AFP were doing their jobs.
We cannot control backwards developing countries. If we could thousands of women wouldn't get raped and kidnapped in Africa, families wouldn't be escaping extremists in the middle east in droves. Its easy to think the world is a lovely place from our safe little cul-de-sacs in Aus, fact is its not.
I would like to point out I am not trying to change anyone's mind, and realise you aren't trying to change mine.
I still think it ok to question our procedures though, in all things, from media, to health to the AFP. I was a public servant for a very long time, and absolutely defend the publics right to question procedures. Of course, I don't think it will change anything.
Sorry if I am getting a bit emotional about this topic, it makes me realise (exactly what you said) that the world isn't a lovely place, that peoples lives mean so little and I find that really scary. Sorry
Ok I guess I'm finding this difficult to grasp because no one was talking about these human rights abuses when it was happening to non-Australians. All of a sudden it matters and everyone is outraged. When Schapelle Corby (who I think was innocent) was let out on parole I found most people had very little sympathy for what she's been through (I know she's alive and they won't be, but I'm more just referring to compassion in general).
And yes, drug users are responsible for their own lives, but I'm not going to feel much pity for the people who put those addictive drugs on the street to pray on (let's face it) very vulnerable people. Hurting yourself is one thing. Hurting others is entirely different.
I'm completely against the death penalty. I don't think they deserve what's happening. I'm more skeptical about why people all of a sudden feel outraged. This has been going on for a long time.
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