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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    With all the crap that's being spouted online it's nice to read these words: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/bali-n...08-13y9lx.html
    Brilliant

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    I read that on facebook the other day! So well written!!!

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    Interesting Richard Branson interview - video goes for about 6min but well worth watching http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-0...-drugs/6299838
    Last edited by babyla; 14-03-2015 at 10:25.

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    I'm so baffled at how this Indonesian president's brain works....he apparently granted clemency to a man who murdered a man and the man's school age child but he doesn't grant clemency to two drug mules who have made an effort to change their lives?
    How does that make sense?

    My assumption is that the indonesian murderer was not enough of a "mass murderer"...as he only killed two people. But yet you can be connected to terrorist bombings and still be freed? Is the fact that one targets foreigners and drugs can potentially kill those in indonesia the difference?

    Gosh I pray that this president opens his eyes and his heart to grant all drug offenders clemency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Owl View Post
    I'm so baffled at how this Indonesian president's brain works....he apparently granted clemency to a man who murdered a man and the man's school age child but he doesn't grant clemency to two drug mules who have made an effort to change their lives?
    How does that make sense?

    My assumption is that the indonesian murderer was not enough of a "mass murderer"...as he only killed two people. But yet you can be connected to terrorist bombings and still be freed? Is the fact that one targets foreigners and drugs can potentially kill those in indonesia the difference?

    Gosh I pray that this president opens his eyes and his heart to grant all drug offenders clemency.
    There seems to be no consistency with regards to the death penalty in Indonesia, I think that's why it all feels so icky to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Owl View Post

    My assumption is that the indonesian murderer was not enough of a "mass murderer"...as he only killed two people. But yet you can be connected to terrorist bombings and still be freed? Is the fact that one targets foreigners and drugs can potentially kill those in indonesia the difference?
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    Long bow.

    According to Wikipedia for the 2002 bombings the main dude that got freed after not much time was the alleged spiritual leader of the terrorist group. Others faced the firing squad. Sounds like with the spiritual leader it was more an evidence based thing rather than a plot to give Indonesians favorable treatment.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Long bow.

    According to Wikipedia for the 2002 bombings the main dude that got freed after not much time was the alleged spiritual leader of the terrorist group. Others faced the firing squad. Sounds like with the spiritual leader it was more an evidence based thing rather than a plot to give Indonesians favorable treatment.
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Bali_bombings
    I was referring to this bomb maker getting released not bashir

    http://mobile.news.com.au/world/indo...-1227016024717

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night Owl View Post
    I was referring to this bomb maker getting released not bashir

    http://mobile.news.com.au/world/indo...-1227016024717
    It's hard to say whether his release was justified when the article doesn't go into any real detail about the role he played or the evidence that authorities actually had against him. (Article seems to be a bit of biased reporting).

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    Spin it any way you want VP, but every single person involved in the bombings who got under 18 years have already been freed on clemency, the longest served was 7 years. 7 years for belonging to a terror group that purposely killed a large group of civilians, not to mention the injuries. For physically making the bombs. The people who drove the bombers to their destinations. People who recruited others to the cause etc. The mind boggles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Spin it any way you want VP, but every single person involved in the bombings who got under 18 years have already been freed on clemency, the longest served was 7 years. 7 years for belonging to a terror group that purposely killed a large group of civilians, not to mention the injuries. For physically making the bombs. The people who drove the bombers to their destinations. People who recruited others to the cause etc. The mind boggles.
    You are generalising and jumping on the Indonesians are bad bandwagon.

    Some bomb makers and drivers etc got the death penalty. Others didn't. Perhaps there was hardly any evidence against those that got reduced sentences?. Perhaps Indonesian authorities were stretching their luck to have them prosecuted at all. Maybe that set the scene for a plea bargain.

    Even in Australia people get reduced sentences because the evidence quite isn't there. Manslaughter instead of murder. Sometimes the sentences just appear to be bloody crap and the media articles really don't do a good job of delving into the why (think Brett Cowans first two victims before Daniel morcombe).


 

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