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    Default 21 types of measles, does MMR cover them all?

    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post
    The OP is considering changing her stance on vaccines, these kinds of comments aren't at all helpful.
    Fair point - I give the OP credit for looking at changing her stance. That being said I don't believe it's helpful to entertain for even one minute the idea that everyday mum and dads can out research qualified scientist via google. That concept is a recipe for disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Fair point - I give the OP credit for looking at changing her stance. That being said I don't believe it's helpful to entertain for even one minute the idea that everyday mum and dads can out research qualified scientist via google. That concept is a recipe for disaster.
    And that's why it's helpful to lead them to science backed reading material
    And further credit to her, she did say that she asked her GP these questions, none of which were answered.
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    Default 21 types of measles, does MMR cover them all?

    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post
    And that's why it's helpful to lead them to science backed reading material
    And further credit to her, she did ask say that she asked her GP these questions, none of which were answered.
    It's just wasting everyone's time. Op's and everyone else's. The subject has already been researched to death and recommendations have been made. I'm sure the GP would have had plenty of reading material on the recommendation to vaccinate - if the OP was interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    It's just wasting everyone's time. Op's and everyone else's. The subject has already been researched to death and recommendations have been made. I'm sure the GP would have had plenty of reading material on the recommendation to vaccinate - if the OP was interested.
    There's nothing wrong with wanting to know as many facts as possible about vaccines and vpds which, if looking at reputable sources, are going to tell you that vaccinating is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicmama View Post
    And that's why it's helpful to lead them to science backed reading material
    And further credit to her, she did ask say that she asked her GP these questions, none of which were answered.
    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    It's just wasting everyone's time. Op's and everyone else's. The subject has already been researched to death and recommendations have been made. I'm sure the GP would have had plenty of reading material on the recommendation to vaccinate - if the OP was interested.
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    There's nothing wrong with wanting to know as many facts as possible about vaccines and vpds which, if looking at reputable sources, are going to tell you that vaccinating is best.
    She needs to be able to make an informed decision. It doesn't matter that the scientific research is thorough and sound, she still needs all the science backed information so she can make her decision. She is not proposing to do her own scientific investigation but trying to find out what information is available to her.

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    She needs to be able to make an informed decision. It doesn't matter that the scientific research is thorough and sound, she still needs all the science backed information so she can make her decision. She is not proposing to do her own scientific investigation but trying to find out what information is available to her.

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    Being informed doesn't count for anything if someone does not have the ability to make sound decisions with that information .

    Don't get me wrong - I do think it's great the OP is reassessing her own stance.

    I am just skeptical that people on BH posting links to this study or that study will make a difference. I'm not necessarily saying this is the case with the OP, however anti-vaxxers (and I am not talking about parents of kids with medical issues) all claim to be informed yet still make the decision not to vaccinate ... despite the medical community overwhelmingly recommending vaccination. Some people have have phobias and fears that lead them to place unreasonable weighting on certain criteria thus leading to bias, while others have illusions of grandeur regarding their own abilities as a quasi scientist and use that to back the fear in their heart rather than the reason in their head. And there are probably some that just aren't that smart (as with the vax side of the fence).

    I suppose what I am getting at: if someone made a poor decision first time around unless they have had a life changing experience I can't see this changing. If they lack the ability to critically assess information and come to a logical conclusion then they are most likely going to go with whatever lobby group lobbies them the strongest. Links individuals post aren't going to make or break the decision.
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    The OP is clearly asking for information and seems to be willing to reconsider her stance on the MMR vaccine. People are learning constantly. I don't believe you necessarily need a life changing experience to be able to change your mind.

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