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    One thing that has always stuck with me from doing mandatory notification training is that you should never look at abuse/ neglect from the perspective of the intention of the adult. You should only look at the perspective of the impact on the child. It is in our nature to sympayhise with the adult, she only did it once, she was having a rough week, she had no money left for food, she just snapped, she was really stressed, etc. It means nothing when it comes to making a report. You should only consider how the abuse or neglect impacts the child.

    I also hate the term 'dobbing' in relation to reports. That mentality has to change. Making a report is not dobbing, you are not trying to get someone in trouble. If that

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    2 words Maddie. McCann!!!

    Enough said!

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    I couldn't do it. I'd be too worried

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT75 View Post
    Perhaps. But the law doesn't.
    What's your point?

    All I'm saying is that to me it's not neglect. It's extremely stupid and irresponsible, and yes, she needs to pull her head in, but that one act I struggle to see how it's neglect or abuse. There's no point telling me "that's the law"...thanks I'm aware. Laws in a few states also say age of consent is 16...doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post
    What's your point?

    All I'm saying is that to me it's not neglect. It's extremely stupid and irresponsible, and yes, she needs to pull her head in, but that one act I struggle to see how it's neglect or abuse. There's no point telling me "that's the law"...thanks I'm aware.
    My point is that it is considered neglect by law. Therefore it IS neglect.
    It may very well be a once-off but that doesn't change it.
    The problem is that it may not be a once off, and that's why she needs to be spoken to.

    As for you personally not considering it as neglect, well that's your choice.
    And it is that mother's choice too.
    But it is not the child's choice- and that's the main point, the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT75 View Post
    My point is that it is considered neglect by law. Therefore it IS neglect.
    It may very well be a once-off but that doesn't change it.
    The problem is that it may not be a once off, and that's why she needs to be spoken to.

    As for you personally not considering it as neglect, well that's your choice.
    And it is that mother's choice too.
    But it is not the child's choice- and that's the main point, the child.
    I've literally stated what she did was irresponsible. I never once excused her actions. I personally would never leave my future child unattended and go for a drive. I also never said it isn't about the child. All I said was that I don't believe it's neglect/abuse, unless there was more to the story. I don't understand why you seem to think or at least come across like I'm making out she did nothing wrong. You're making out like there is more behind what I am trying to say than there actually is. She did a stupid thing, she needs to be called out on it, I don't see it as neglect though, end of story.

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    Just because it's a one off doesn't mean that it isn't neglect. One-offs can still cause harm to the child. The mum deserves a boot up the bum regardless of how often she's done it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post
    I've literally stated what she did was irresponsible. I never once excused her actions. I personally would never leave my future child unattended and go for a drive. I also never said it isn't about the child. All I said was that I don't believe it's neglect/abuse, unless there was more to the story. I don't understand why you seem to think or at least come across like I'm making out she did nothing wrong. You're making out like there is more behind what I am trying to say than there actually is. She did a stupid thing, she needs to be called out on it, I don't see it as neglect though, end of story.
    Look, I'm really not trying to single you out or anything. But you keep saying you don't see it as neglect. That doesn't make it so.

    My problem is not with you, at all. My problem is with the sense of dismissal. That because it may be a once off, it's ok to let it go. That is slightly terrifying. That's all I'm trying to say.

    Sorry if it seems I am singling you out, or if I caused offence in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post
    What's your point?

    All I'm saying is that to me it's not neglect. It's extremely stupid and irresponsible, and yes, she needs to pull her head in, but that one act I struggle to see how it's neglect or abuse. There's no point telling me "that's the law"...thanks I'm aware. Laws in a few states also say age of consent is 16...doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
    ... but legally, it IS neglect. Its like me saying 'i drove 20k over the speed limit... and i only did it once. So to me, i dont think i was speeding.' The law is the law.

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    I also struggle with the idea of 'she only did it once, so that makes it ok.' My DH only hit me once. He was stressed and he snapped. He only did it once, though, so its not really domestic violence.

    (He has never actually hit me, im just using it as an example)


 

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