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    Default $2 Polo Shirts - Exploitation????

    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post
    I think BigRedV's point is that just because you pay more for a certain item, it doesn't mean that there is less likelihood of exploitation (sorry if I'm wrong @BigRedV).

    And a few dollars might not seem much to you, but it doesn't mean it doesn't seem like much for someone struggling badly to make ends meet.
    Yes, that was my point about the $6 shirts in comparison to $2 shirts.

    Some expensive, trendy brands here score less on ethical ratings than Kmart.

    ETA - the other thing is as someone pointed out in another thread, my kids' school have the uniforms made by an Australian lady, the uniform shop is at the school, the labels say "made in Australia" which I was amazed when I saw as that's not something you see on clothing these days but then where is the fabric produced and made? Sure, some Aussie woman is earning a decent living but what about the fabric makers?

    Unless we are all making our own materials and sewing our own clothes, then we are probably all guilty of wearing clothing that come from slave labour. Whether it's a $1000 dress or $10 dress!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I quoted Gentoo because she said the article said that target and Kmart refused to state the factories they used, but the article didn't say that, it only said best and less wouldn't state the factory they use. That was my initial point.


    The article states:

    "Target's general manager of corporate affairs, Kristene Reynolds, declined to name the factory from which the $2 polos were sourced from..."

    And:

    "Kmart's general manager of sustainability, Tracie Walker, also declined to name the factory from where the shirts were sourced..."

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    My take away from the article about target and Kmart is they wouldn't give details of how they could produce the shirts for $2. If it's legal safe and fair why can't they?

    I agree paying a lot doesn't mean ethical conditions. It irritates me that many designer brands charge a fortune and still produce their products in sweat shops.

    But this is like a red flag isn't it? Do we just say well everyone's doing it so that makes it ok?

    It reminds me of the war on milk prices a few years ago and how Woolworths and Coles nearly bankrupted dairy farmers because of their milk price war.

    It would make me less uncomfortable if the sellers just explained how they could do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopeful1986 View Post

    And a few dollars might not seem much to you, but it doesn't mean it doesn't seem like much for someone struggling badly to make ends meet.

    I know that for some Australians who are struggling badly, a few dollars does mean a lot. And that's a completely ridiculous situation which needs to change- our country has enough wealth that all our citizens should be assisted to have a reasonable standard of living.

    I think, though, that it's a separate issue to this one - namely, whether people in Bangladesh or China or wherever else should be paid insufficient wages to be able to support their own family (to a standard, I might add, that would be unthinkably low to most Australians).

    I would think that Australians who are struggling themselves are possibly the best placed to understand what a "below-living" wage means to others in Bangladesh and China. They know how it feels to worry about feeding, clothing and housing your family. Saving a few dollars on a t-shirt is not going to solve the problems of the former group- those problems need a much wider solution involving employment, housing, welfare etc reform. But saving a few dollars COULD make a world of difference to the problems of the latter group of people.

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    Default $2 Polo Shirts - Exploitation????

    It's not ok, but again, how do we know that a $6 shirt is more ethical? It's more than likely not. So it's a bit hypocritical to tell people to pay 200% more for a shirt when people are still slaving away in Bangladesh with no guarantee that their working conditions are better whether someone pays $4 or $40 or $400 for a shirt.

    There are parents at the school I work at who can only afford the $2 shirt rather than the official school shirt. And they shouldn't feel bad about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    There are parents at the school I work at who can only afford the $2 shirt rather than the official school shirt. And they shouldn't feel bad about it.
    Sorry but why should a parent's needs in a western culture be more important than a parent in Bangladesh or China?

    If corporations were held accountable for how their products were manufactured we wouldn't have to worry about how the cost equates to conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Sorry but why should a parent's needs in a western culture be more important than a parent in Bangladesh or China?

    If corporations were held accountable for how their products were manufactured we wouldn't have to worry about how the cost equates to conditions.
    Who is to say the $26 official school shirt is more ethical anyway? They're made in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Who is to say the $26 official school shirt is more ethical anyway? They're made in China.
    It probably isn't and that's actually incredibly sad.

    My DH works up in China and many factories are ethical. Not all. But they do exist.

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    Those of you who think the problem is only that these things are bought please answer me honestly

    When the stores don't do their business there WHERE do the people working in these factories go?
    Yes working conditions should be safe, livable wage paid but where are these people going if the companies just shut up shop there? (and just fyi the stockers of these 'cheap' shirts fall far better in the ratings when comparing these things then MANY brand names do)

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    Default $2 Polo Shirts - Exploitation????

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Who is to say the $26 official school shirt is more ethical anyway? They're made in China.
    Not all of them are - I just check DS shirts and they are made in Australia by a local company in Dulwich Hill 😊


 

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