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    Correlation doesnt imply causation. It is well known that ASD is somewhat genetic. I wonder if there is a higher incidence of ASD amongst circumsised children, i would wonder if parents who are ASD themselves are more likely to circumcise their children?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    You don't need any qualifications to do a circ in Australia (you don't even need to be a doctor!). However, penile dorsal nerve block (the most effective)requires some specialist training. The high-volume providers don't bother.
    from a legal standpoint I find this very, VERY hard to believe.
    we have many rules surrounding medical procedures in this country so UI do not believe LEGALLY anyone can perform one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThenThereWereThree View Post
    from a legal standpoint I find this very, VERY hard to believe.
    we have many rules surrounding medical procedures in this country so UI do not believe LEGALLY anyone can perform one.
    I know that mohels are allowed to perform the procedure, (don't even get me started how gross that procedure is) but in the medical establishment I would have thought there would be some strict guidelines.

    I would be interested to see some verification on either side. Do med pro's need training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeeeesecake View Post
    Correlation doesnt imply causation. It is well known that ASD is somewhat genetic. I wonder if there is a higher incidence of ASD amongst circumsised children, i would wonder if parents who are ASD themselves are more likely to circumcise their children?
    thats it,
    I wonder if this study has taken into account socio-economic background, parents genetics and mental health, situations of DV etc

    what about children who are chronically ill? my second has had constant pain pretty much the last 6 months, sure bub is only a toddler now but if its early life pain shock that can trigger it then both my children should show signs of ASD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amgine View Post
    Omg. Shocked by the fear-mongering!!!! My son was very traumatic birth (including breathing intervention and NICU) and was circumcised. He is now almost 15, is extremely fit, healthy, well above average intelligence (school performance, exams etc).
    I am so tired of all the "Google Doctors" out there!! Give an opinion/ask some questions, but for god's sake stop the "expert" opinions.
    I am not a "Google Doctor", I am an actual doctor. I have a Bachelor of Pharmacy, Medicine and Surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    I am not a "Google Doctor", I am an actual doctor. I have a Bachelor in Pharmacy, Medicine and Surgery.

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    I think she was referring to JohnC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amgine View Post
    Just what were your qualifications again?
    In terms of this thread I've actually read the research article in question, which seems to be rather more than most here have done. As for the rest of your comments, you obviously haven't read my posts very closely: eg "The hypothesis being investigated is scientifically interesting but not of great clinical significance" is hardly scare-mongering. And I do not presume to offer medical advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThenThereWereThree View Post
    we have many rules surrounding medical procedures in this country so UI do not believe LEGALLY anyone can perform one.
    You do not need to be a medical practicioner to perform a male circumcision in Australia. You do in New Zealand. This point is made in the RACP position statement on routine circumcision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    In terms of this thread I've actually read the research article in question, which seems to be rather more than most here have done. As for the rest of your comments, you obviously haven't read my posts very closely: eg "The hypothesis being investigated is scientifically interesting but not of great clinical significance" is hardly scare-mongering. And I do not presume to offer medical advice.



    You do not need to be a medical practicioner to perform a male circumcision in Australia. You do in New Zealand. This point is made in the RACP position statement on routine circumcision.
    You must be confused...The RACP is the Royal Australian College of Physicians. Physicians are not Surgeons.

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    Well sir, you should lose your licence to practice, NEVER have I experienced a "Doctor" that has been so one-sided and aggressive in their approach to pushing their personal opinion. It is a disgrace that you would come to this group to spout one-sided antics about your opinion.

    There are also many many studies that prove the reduction in STI's, cervical cancer, penile cancer, prostate cancer, even HIV/AIDS.

    This is a very personal decision and I don't think you should be on here forcing your beliefs onto people.

    You are not on here employed as a GP etc, you have no right to be so blatantly biased, and as a "claimed Doctor" (which from your approach I highly doubt), you should not be approaching medicine like this!


    Like I said... Again... Fear mongering.

    Shame shame shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I think she was referring to JohnC
    Yep


 
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