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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Absolutely...if one is hypothesising that repeated, ongoing pain in infants may induce neuroplasticity of pain pathways, etc...then this may have some merit in light of what we already know. But a simple circ...no, rubbish.

    (And I am not pro-RIC either).


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    Also, babies experience lots of different sources of pain. I wonder what the correlation would be for other procedures some babies have to go through or for babies with silent reflux, 'colic', chronic constipation etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    Also, babies experience lots of different sources of pain. I wonder what the correlation would be for other procedures some babies have to go through or for babies with silent reflux, 'colic', chronic constipation etc...
    .... or that heel prick test! My babies screamed through that.
    Or premmie babies, or babies with other medical conditions that require intervention....

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    Default Circumcision increases risk of ASD

    This sort of thing always makes me think of the Pirates/Global Warming correlation lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cue View Post
    Also, babies experience lots of different sources of pain. I wonder what the correlation would be for other procedures some babies have to go through or for babies with silent reflux, 'colic', chronic constipation etc...
    I was thinking about my Bub and silent reflux.

    Then it made me think of me. I had my bowels knot up as a 4 month old and had major abdominal surgery and there are no issues like that with me.

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    I have read some articles about a possible link between early trauma and ASD and SPD (mainly because my DS2 had a very traumatic birth and has been diagnosed with SPD) but I didnt think it was a proven link.

    Interestingly my DS3 had a traumatic birth also, in some ways more traumatic but he so far doesnt show signs of SPD like DS2.

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    Rubbish...

    Why? Because boys think with their genitals??

    Pfft...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Sounds like complete bull**** to me.
    No, the correlation is objectively real, particularly for infantile autism before age five years (HR = 2.06; 95% CI: 1.36–3.13). Of course, no conclusions about causality can be made yet, but the effect is sufficiently pronounced for the authors to conclude that "confirmatory studies should be given priority".

    Quote Originally Posted by J37 View Post
    Circumcision is performed under a sacral nerve block (so infant will not feel a thing), and when this wears off, regular paracetamol and ibuprofen will keep bubs comfortable.
    Again wrong. The majority of infant circumcisions in Australia are performed using EMLA cream as the sole anaesthetic, which is patently inadequate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC View Post
    Again wrong. The majority of infant circumcisions in Australia are performed using EMLA cream as the sole anaesthetic, which is patently inadequate.
    With respect this isn't true, and hasn't been for years. My son is going on 8 and he had the ELMA cream then a local anesthetic. I would never have gone ahead with it otherwise. I'm not saying every dr that does the procedure using a local, but a vast majority do... and those that don't shouldn't be allowed to do it anymore. Despite what you think, there are many that circ their sons that do have a brain. You may not agree with their decision, but the use of superlatives in a factual debate doesn't strengthen it.

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    Omg. Shocked by the fear-mongering!!!! My son was very traumatic birth (including breathing intervention and NICU) and was circumcised. He is now almost 15, is extremely fit, healthy, well above average intelligence (school performance, exams etc).
    I am so tired of all the "Google Doctors" out there!! Give an opinion/ask some questions, but for god's sake stop the "expert" opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    With respect this isn't true, and hasn't been for years. My son is going on 8 and he had the ELMA cream then a local anesthetic. I would never have gone ahead with it otherwise. I'm not saying every dr that does the procedure using a local, but a vast majority do... and those that don't shouldn't be allowed to do it anymore. Despite what you think, there are many that circ their sons that do have a brain. You may not agree with their decision, but the use of superlatives in a factual debate doesn't strengthen it.
    This.
    X3 different surgeons.

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