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    My son is 4 months old. Since he was first born he has shown some of the signs of silent reflux - "chew his cud", snacking, catnapping, frequent night waking, restless sleeper, appears to be snuffly and wheezey at times.
    Time went on and now sometimes when feeding his little tummy and insides gurgle, groan and squeal and then a few seconds later he comes off and starts screaming. His whole little body shakes, he thrashes his arms and legs around, arches his back and is inconsolable for 5-10 minutes and then he wants to feed again. Sometimes when I lay him down you can hear him gagging, and his tummy gurgling but he doesn't throw up. You just hear him chewing on it and swallowing. This doesn't matter how long after a feed.

    The thing is he doesn't do all of these things all the time, or even consistently. The screaming when feeding is mainly the "going to bed feed". We feed to sleep.

    A lot of these things I just put down to being normal and he'd come out of it with time - eg frequent feeding, catnapping, all the night wakings and because we had latch issues when we first started breastfeeding, I assumed maybe he'd slipped a little and gulped some air and that was why he'd occasionally come off screaming during a feed.

    Sometimes he'll have a great day, and happily lay flat on his playmat, go down in his cot for naps easily after being fed to sleep and be very happy and content.
    Other days he will be a screaming crying mess unless I have him upright against me, so I spend a lot of time with him in the wrap. If I try to get him in the cot he will fall asleep happily in my arms but when I lay him down he screams.
    Nights are rubbish regardless of what kind of day we've had, with waking up anything from every 20 mins to every 2 hours. He usually naps for 30-40 mins through the day, and will often wake up crying so I put him in the wrap and he will sleep some more.
    He randomly started going 1-1.5 hours for his daysleeps and did that for about two weeks, until he had his 4 month needles and this all flared up again with all of the symptoms of silent reflux showing up all together and I finally clicked that maybe it's silent reflux.
    Our GP prescribed omeprazole and he's had it for 4 nights now. No difference but I'm expecting it to take a bit longer if it's going to work. Especially if he has irritation from the tummy acids.

    I'm just so confused because until this week the "signs" of silent reflux were sporadic. He would only do a few of the things here and there and suddenly it got much worse. Some days hes perfectly content, others he's a screaming mess where all the signs point to silent reflux and I'm so sure that's what's wrong.
    If the medicine works, great it's silent reflux and we'll give him the medicine and take him to the chiro. But if it's not and he's just been out of sorts from the needles and all the other signs could mean something else entirely I don't want to be giving him medicine.

    Please help - does this sound like reflux? CMPI? Something else? Do reflux babies only do all the symptomatic things sometimes or all the time?

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    Default Silent reflux? CMPI? Just being a baby?! Help!

    Lord that was an essay, and I still forgot to mention - we've had no weight gain issues at all. He's 20w and 7.25kg. EBF. He has 0.7ml of omeprazole once per day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edameny89 View Post
    This sounds like my 5mo bub. She was breastfed, but I found out the hardway that I had next to no milk (she was underweight and screaming for food all the time). I tried absolutely everything to get my milk back, but nothing worked. I ended up giving in, and decided I would do combination feeds. I gave her s26 gold and it gave her bad wind/constipation. Long story short, I put her on allerpro (for cmpi) that made her really constipated and her farts were shocking, so now she's on lactose free and is doing great (no B/M it's non existent lol). She sleeps for 10-12 hours per night, and has the occasional tantrum before her bedtime bottle (arches back, cries, pushing bottle out of her mouth) She does vomit a fair bit (like cottage cheese) but other than that she is doing great. I wish I bottle fed earlier to save myself from all the torture I had to go through.
    This is my bub too.. tried pepti jnr and she hated it.. she is now almost 21 weeks and on lactose free and its great.

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    Sounds like my Bub but her symptoms were constant and she had weight loss. She is much better now but still has off days.

    If you losec isn't working, Bub might need a higher dose before you move onto something else.

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    No he's not hungry, I know his hungry cry and it's not a hungry cry, or a frustrated, impatient "give me milk now!" cry. It's a pain cry. When he comes off the boob crying I know he's hurting. He's quite a chunky little monkey actually, lots of lovely squishy leg, arm and belly rolls.

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    My silent reflex son was very similar. Arching of back, painful screaming, constant feeding, which was a cycle as the milk cooled his throat but then it would come back up and burn. He stacked on the weight bc of this so plump doesn't mean it isn't SR.He was put on zoton by the paed but we found an overnight change once we introduced solids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edameny89 View Post
    Going to take my bub to the dr tomorrow to see if she has reflux. I have been at my wits end the last few days with the amount of vomit and bottle time tantrums she is throwing. I looked up today the symptoms and it became apparent how many symptoms she has.
    Be prepared for the doctor to brush you off. It took me 4 doctors, a weight loss of 240g over a weekend and s trip to emergency for anyone to listen to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #Mama View Post
    My son is 4 months old. Since he was first born he has shown some of the signs of silent reflux - "chew his cud", snacking, catnapping, frequent night waking, restless sleeper, appears to be snuffly and wheezey at times.
    Time went on and now sometimes when feeding his little tummy and insides gurgle, groan and squeal and then a few seconds later he comes off and starts screaming. His whole little body shakes, he thrashes his arms and legs around, arches his back and is inconsolable for 5-10 minutes and then he wants to feed again. Sometimes when I lay him down you can hear him gagging, and his tummy gurgling but he doesn't throw up. You just hear him chewing on it and swallowing. This doesn't matter how long after a feed.

    The thing is he doesn't do all of these things all the time, or even consistently. The screaming when feeding is mainly the "going to bed feed". We feed to sleep.

    A lot of these things I just put down to being normal and he'd come out of it with time - eg frequent feeding, catnapping, all the night wakings and because we had latch issues when we first started breastfeeding, I assumed maybe he'd slipped a little and gulped some air and that was why he'd occasionally come off screaming during a feed.

    Sometimes he'll have a great day, and happily lay flat on his playmat, go down in his cot for naps easily after being fed to sleep and be very happy and content.
    Other days he will be a screaming crying mess unless I have him upright against me, so I spend a lot of time with him in the wrap. If I try to get him in the cot he will fall asleep happily in my arms but when I lay him down he screams.
    Nights are rubbish regardless of what kind of day we've had, with waking up anything from every 20 mins to every 2 hours. He usually naps for 30-40 mins through the day, and will often wake up crying so I put him in the wrap and he will sleep some more.
    He randomly started going 1-1.5 hours for his daysleeps and did that for about two weeks, until he had his 4 month needles and this all flared up again with all of the symptoms of silent reflux showing up all together and I finally clicked that maybe it's silent reflux.
    Our GP prescribed omeprazole and he's had it for 4 nights now. No difference but I'm expecting it to take a bit longer if it's going to work. Especially if he has irritation from the tummy acids.

    I'm just so confused because until this week the "signs" of silent reflux were sporadic. He would only do a few of the things here and there and suddenly it got much worse. Some days hes perfectly content, others he's a screaming mess where all the signs point to silent reflux and I'm so sure that's what's wrong.
    If the medicine works, great it's silent reflux and we'll give him the medicine and take him to the chiro. But if it's not and he's just been out of sorts from the needles and all the other signs could mean something else entirely I don't want to be giving him medicine.

    Please help - does this sound like reflux? CMPI? Something else? Do reflux babies only do all the symptomatic things sometimes or all the time?
    I am just going through the silent reflux issue too. My bub can be happy on the mat, giggling, smiling. He is nice and fat and doesn't scream much at all. But he has every other sign of relic and possibly Cmpi. Gp's are useless. Best advice I can give you is find a pead that is great with reflux and get in ASAP.

    In the mean time call reflux infant support association. They helped me more than the gp's

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    I had the same issues with my DD when she was this age. Try winding very frequently - I even started unlatching and burping every 3 minutes whilst BF. If I didn't she would scream at bedtime because a days worth of wind would be trying to come up.

    It took at least 7 days from when we started reflux medication at 14 weeks to see any results so hang in there.

    Also over tiredness contributed to the screaming at bedtime. She would fight sleep and then start to doze off during a feed and then scream when she realised she was falling asleep.

    Also could be worth looking at lactose overload - especially if like my bub you have no weight issues. Or changes to your diet could help as well, particularly if it doesn't happen every day. The worse days could be due to something different you have eaten which may upset little tummies.

    HTH I remember how tough really frequent night wakings can be so big hugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by #Mama View Post
    My son is 4 months old. Since he was first born he has shown some of the signs of silent reflux - "chew his cud", snacking, catnapping, frequent night waking, restless sleeper, appears to be snuffly and wheezey at times.
    Time went on and now sometimes when feeding his little tummy and insides gurgle, groan and squeal and then a few seconds later he comes off and starts screaming. His whole little body shakes, he thrashes his arms and legs around, arches his back and is inconsolable for 5-10 minutes and then he wants to feed again. Sometimes when I lay him down you can hear him gagging, and his tummy gurgling but he doesn't throw up. You just hear him chewing on it and swallowing. This doesn't matter how long after a feed.

    The thing is he doesn't do all of these things all the time, or even consistently. The screaming when feeding is mainly the "going to bed feed". We feed to sleep.

    A lot of these things I just put down to being normal and he'd come out of it with time - eg frequent feeding, catnapping, all the night wakings and because we had latch issues when we first started breastfeeding, I assumed maybe he'd slipped a little and gulped some air and that was why he'd occasionally come off screaming during a feed.

    Sometimes he'll have a great day, and happily lay flat on his playmat, go down in his cot for naps easily after being fed to sleep and be very happy and content.
    Other days he will be a screaming crying mess unless I have him upright against me, so I spend a lot of time with him in the wrap. If I try to get him in the cot he will fall asleep happily in my arms but when I lay him down he screams.
    Nights are rubbish regardless of what kind of day we've had, with waking up anything from every 20 mins to every 2 hours. He usually naps for 30-40 mins through the day, and will often wake up crying so I put him in the wrap and he will sleep some more.
    He randomly started going 1-1.5 hours for his daysleeps and did that for about two weeks, until he had his 4 month needles and this all flared up again with all of the symptoms of silent reflux showing up all together and I finally clicked that maybe it's silent reflux.
    Our GP prescribed omeprazole and he's had it for 4 nights now. No difference but I'm expecting it to take a bit longer if it's going to work. Especially if he has irritation from the tummy acids.

    I'm just so confused because until this week the "signs" of silent reflux were sporadic. He would only do a few of the things here and there and suddenly it got much worse. Some days hes perfectly content, others he's a screaming mess where all the signs point to silent reflux and I'm so sure that's what's wrong.
    If the medicine works, great it's silent reflux and we'll give him the medicine and take him to the chiro. But if it's not and he's just been out of sorts from the needles and all the other signs could mean something else entirely I don't want to be giving him medicine.

    Please help - does this sound like reflux? CMPI? Something else? Do reflux babies only do all the symptomatic things sometimes or all the time?
    http://www.reflux.org.au

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