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    There's plenty of white people killing in the name,of race and religion. Ferguson also springs to mind. But the media ignores it, down plays it, minimises it- the language used is different. The do the same with DV- man murders disabled wife and children then kills himself- they talk about how he was a nice guy, a terrible shame, the family "perished" when no- he wasn't a nice guy. He killed his entire family. They didn't perish- they were shot to death, one by one, by their dad or husband. Know what I mean?

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    meh thats just stirring.

    After the killing in France all media are talking about the 2-3 terrorists guilty of the attack. Not of the 2-3 Muslims.

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    But the linked comment isn't just referring specifically to media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    But the linked comment isn't just referring specifically to media?
    I meant traditional and social media (Facebook, Twitter, etc).

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    I will only comment on the Paris attack and say that it is fairly accurate to refer to the gunmen as Islamist terrorists/extremists.

    They did kill to avenge the prophet and yelled "Allah hu Akbar".

    They are also recruiting young French people for the Jihad in Syria.

    But no one has been blaming the whole religion of Islam, that is why I think the tweet in the OP is just stirring.

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    I agree, in this context it is definitely accurate. But I do think it's quite a common sentiment in (particularly) social media to blame Islam as a whole. Just read comments under any news.com.au stories for proof of that :-) it's a default response. I could take screen shots and things to demonstrate but I don't like to give those views any oxygen at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    How about Anders Brevik?
    And that's why I said 'that *I* have heard of'

    I don't know who that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAgirl View Post
    And that's why I said 'that *I* have heard of'

    I don't know who that is.
    The Norway massacre? In 2011? Killed 77 people?

    This guy: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-1...father/5755498

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    I totally agree with that tweet. Generally that is how many in society see things, usually the type of people who only get their news from one particular source and don't look to broaden their knowledge and understanding of an incident. Sadly, that is a majority of people.

    On that note though, speaking in terms of a white person committing a mass murder (say a school shooting or something similar), it isn't usually a terrorist act in the sense that it's not politically or religiously motivated. It is just a very sick individual doing a disgusting thing. It's interesting how it does seem to usually be a white male though and it doesn't seem to lead to people being frightened of white males in the way they are of black males in a criminal sense.

    There are white terrorists though. Atropos named a couple and I can think of Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma bomber) and the Boston Bombings off the top of my head. Although the Boston bombers did have some sort of reason they saw as relating to Islam, I do still consider them white, American males. I mean that in a broad way in that they were Russian-Americans, US citizens, not black, Arabic, Indian, Hispanic, or any other 'non-white' dissent. I do understand that we can get technical about their Russian background but overall, in America any other person of that heritage would normally be considered Caucasian.

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    Well since I posted it to my facebook page, I obviously agree with it!

    A lot of minorities get tarred with the same brush but when it's white men, they are individuals.

    Take a look at how Australians generally view Aboriginal people. It's not positive. One aboriginal person commits a crime, the whole race is bad.

    An extremist kills people in a cafe, a whole religion is blamed.

    A refugee gets arrested, send them all back etc.

    Seriously, you just have to read ignorant comments on facebook news sites to see that.
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