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    Default Spin off - where is the line between humour and offensive cartoons and jokes?

    After the thread about the horrible attack and deaths in Paris yesterday, I've always questioned when do jokes and cartoons Etc step over the line into offensive?

    Im one to take things very personally, I don't agree with poking fun at any religion, nationality, people with disabilities etc etc. So where is the line between humour and offensive in your mind?

    As it was widely stated, they took the **** out of everything, but again, where is that line?

    Eg if it was okay to poke fun at things like Islam, is it okay to make jokes about say:

    - the victims of terrorism
    - children with autism
    - Indigenous Australians
    - red heads
    - overweight people

    In my mind it would be in very poor taste and not acceptable in my opinion to poke fun at any of the above so I question why are their original cartoons (all of them - not just those about Islam) accepted as okay?

    Where is your line?

    Note: Though I disagree with the 'jokes' or 'satire' what ever you choose to call it of the publication, I DO NOT think it was at all the individuals fault they were killed - the terrorists are clearly 100% to blame - this post is just about as the title states the line between a joke and something being offensive?

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    For me almost everything is fair game. Ricky Gervais (I think) once said that you don't give offense, you take it. So when I find myself reacting to something and being offended, I tend to ask myself what nerve the joke has touched in me. Feeling that everything is fair game is NOT the same as thinking everything is funny, I might add. Also, it depends who is making the joke, and who the intended audience is.

    From your list, I would feel very uncomfortable probably about a joke about victims of terrorism, but if the person making the joke was themselves a victim? I don't know. It's a good question.

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    I think this is an impossible question to answer as 'the line' is always based on someones perception of the joke at the time.

    IE i might not care if someone cracks a joke at my expense one day, but i could lose my **** if im feeling emotional the next.

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    I don't doubt many of the examples you have listed can most certainly be taken as offensive. But that doesn't mean they deserved the outcome (and I know OP you have clearly said that, my comment is a more a general one that I can see how their cartoons could be construed as offensive.)

    As to my line? Jokes about DV, disability and rape cross it.

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    I guess the thing is, satire isn't just about poking fun- it's usually holding something up for critical examination -to expose it's weaknesses or flaws, to draw attention to human foibles and vices- it's more thought provoking than just "Hahaha, fat people are fat!"

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    I've heard plenty of jokes about the last two you've listed ... And to be honest I often find them funny. My DS1 is a red head but the jokes are still humorous .. Like PP have said the people making them are usually that way themselves (eg- Tim Minchin and the song prejudice about red heads).

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    I think it's hard to draw a line because what offends people is so subjective. I would imagine most people have at least one topic they simply would not find a joke / satire funny due to a personal reason. Because of that I don't think it's possible to not to offend someone.

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    Default Spin off - where is the line between humour and offensive cartoons and jokes?

    For me this is extremely difficult as humour is so subjective.
    I found an article on this subject this week and this is where I think the line is.
    Power plays a significant role as it does throughout our culture.

    Mods remove the link if not ok

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-0...-jokes/4545020

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    Even if something is offensive, doesn't mean it has crossed a line and should be subject to censorship. If someone is offended it doesn't mean they have the right to demand the other person to be quiet or stop what they are doing.

    As Atropos said, satire usually has a key point that it's trying to make, it's not just about making someone laugh. From the cartoons I have seen the point is that they are pointing out some of the less than savory practices and beliefs that can be interpreted from Islam - they aren't just randomly poking fun at Muslims so your comparison to making fun of terrorist victims, children with autism etc is not an fair or equal comparison.

    An example, I LOATHE Larry Pickering cartoons, especially those depicting Gillard. He is a vile creature. However, where we have freedom of speech and expression he is allowed to continue and I am allowed to say "PICKERING, YOU SUCK!! YOU'RE A SNIVELING, MISERABLE ANGRY OLD MAN. GO FIND A HOBBY LIKE PLAYING ON HIGHWAYS".

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