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    http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...ralian-streets

    thoughts??? I have a sick feeling of something bad happening....
    god forbid if it does than laws will definatly change like they did in america post 9/11

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    I'm sure they're being watched very closely.

    Let's put things into perspective...

    Around 170 people have died from terrorism in Australia since 1970's. This includes Australians killed overseas and foreigners killed in Australia. That is just over 3 people a YEAR.

    I don't have stats for 2014, but in 2013, 1193 people were killed in Australia by motor vehicle accidents alone. That is over 3 people a DAY! Yet people don't seem to be afraid of driving. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Yet people don't seem to be afraid of driving. Why?
    Because you accept the risk when you drive that you could have an accident, and actively try to avoid it.

    You cant actively avoid some crazy nut who takes over a building where your getting your morning coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooketobub View Post
    Because you accept the risk when you drive that you could have an accident, and actively try to avoid it.

    You cant actively avoid some crazy nut who takes over a building where your getting your morning coffee.
    You can ensure you drive carefully, but you can't actively avoid idiots on the road. They're everywhere! And the fact is you are more likely to die in Australia from a car accident, being eaten by a shark, getting hit by a bus than you are dying from a terrorist act!
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    I don't really know what I'm trying to say here but this has been weighing on my mind today and seeing this thread has brought it to the forefront.

    2014 saw some pretty horrible tragedies around the world and often threads on bubhub reached comments into the hundreds of people speculating or just needing to talk about it. But the Air Asia tragedy has seen few. But now there's an article about possible jihadists being posted? It's almost like we're desperate to be frightened of things like this and the Air Asia crash, being a genuine accident, isn't worth our thoughts.

    Maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's because it happened over Christmas and we've all been distracted.

    But today I inadvertently saw a video on a news article I was reading of a body being pulled from the water. I heard somebody had a life vest on and I can't stop thinking about them knowing what was about to happen.

    So yes, I agree with BigRed. Let's keep things in perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    You can ensure you drive carefully, but you can't actively avoid idiots on the road. They're everywhere! And the fact is you are more likely to die in Australia from a car accident, being eaten by a shark, getting hit by a bus than you are dying from a terrorist act!
    You most certainly can avoid them. By remaining vigilant and keeping a look out, slowing down and moving away from erratic drivers. Of course not all the time but you accept the risk.

    The fact is, by swimming in the ocean, you accept risk if sharks. By jaywalking you know you could get hit by a bus.

    If im walking to work and some idiot chops my head off with a machete in Martin Place for their own personal agenda thats a whole other situation.

    I understand what you are trying to say, but you cant really use the past as a comparison. These terroist actions are unpredictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooketobub View Post
    You most certainly can avoid them. By remaining vigilant and keeping a look out, slowing down and moving away from erratic drivers. Of course not all the time but you accept the risk.

    The fact is, by swimming in the ocean, you accept risk if sharks. By jaywalking you know you could get hit by a bus.

    If im walking to work and some idiot chops my head off with a machete in Martin Place for their own personal agenda thats a whole other situation.

    I understand what you are trying to say, but you cant really use the past as a comparison. These terroist actions are unpredictable.
    You do realize that some of the worst, 'unpredictable' killings in Australia have been committed by 'non-terrorists?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    You do realize that some of the worst, 'unpredictable' killings in Australia have been committed by 'non-terrorists?'
    Of course i do. And if America looked at its past history before 911 it would have said the same thing.

    Look im not saying anything will happen, but you cant blame the OP (and others) for worrying or having a fear of it happening just because it hasnt happened in the past. Whether you believe its irrational is neither here nor there.

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    There are also a lot more than 20 non "Jihadists" criminals that are free to walk around ( and reoffend ). I'm sure I've got more than 20 in my suburb alone ( and I'm in a nicer suburb).
    I don't see you cowering in fear over this. These offenders have been walking amongst us long before everyone started fearing jihadists.

    Look at Brett Peter Cowan who had a long criminal history....

    Jill Meagher killer Adrian Bayley had a shocking criminal history.

    I know there are several others, here is a link to an article I found

    http://mobile.news.com.au/national/p...-1226928205136


    "Terrorists" only have power if you let them incite fear. I'm no more afraid that on the small chance I'm walking down the street I may become a jihadist victim than I am about becoming a sickened criminals victim ( which is almost at 0%).

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    Quote Originally Posted by brooketobub View Post
    Of course i do. And if America looked at its past history before 911 it would have said the same thing.

    Look im not saying anything will happen, but you cant blame the OP (and others) for worrying or having a fear of it happening just because it hasnt happened in the past. Whether you believe its irrational is neither here nor there.
    America had experienced terrorist attacks before 9/11. I can remember a few off the top of my head, 9/11 wasn't the first attack on the twin towers. And 9/11 wasn't Bin Laden's first attack against Americans. 9/11 was just what brought it all to the world stage and made more people take notice. Because of 9/11 world governments are more vigilant than ever.

    I just think some perspective needs to be kept. The fact that that article can even be written shows that the government is well aware of what is happening.


 

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