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    It is a stupid thing to say because there is no way it can actually be enacted, and what if people were forced onto contraception and it failed? Would they have to have a termination to keep their payments?

    It is something you would expect from a communist government!

    How about getting rid of the $7 co-payment and increasing access to bulk billing doctors so people can afford to go to the Doctor to access contraception if they choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    Mr Johns says it's better to avoid having children until parents can afford them.
    Hmmm... Since when can anyone really afford to have children these days? Kids are expensive, the price of living is skyrocketing, but money shouldn't be the only reason to wait to have children.

    Our family was in a shocking financial situation before DD... She gave us the motivation to change our lifestyle and get ahead without the governments help!

    I agree that contraception should be heavily subsidised or free to some though.

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    Perhaps they should consider mandatory contraception for stupid people like him? How ridiculous not to mention somewhat unethical, you can't force people to have artificial hormones if that's not what they want.

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    Yep, Make contraception - in all its forms free to those on benefits - or even free to those living under a certain amount - that way people won't 'chance it' when they have to choose between new school clothes/food/insert anything needed here and contraception.

    I know my pill, which was the cheapest generic version cost $50 for a three month supply. I live on way more than the average wage and would have absolutely no problems with 'my tax money' going to that (Disclaimer* just using that saying as many people do, I don't believe it is my money at all to decide where it is spent)

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    I kinda admit I laughed at the sheer absurdity of this after yesterday's news of childcare prices rising by something like 30% in the next four years. Anyone who accesses subsidies for childcare also uses "welfare" of some description. The sheer fact that childcare will be something no one can afford will force more people onto welfare.

    The stupidity of ANYONE claiming to be or having been a politician is breathtaking lately.

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    What about the people who can't take hormonal contraception? They can't police the use of condoms. What about men? Will their payments be affected?
    How stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by becca022 View Post
    What about the people who can't take hormonal contraception? They can't police the use of condoms. What about men? Will their payments be affected?
    How stupid.
    Exactly! Lots of people can't take hormonal contraception due to existing medical conditions!

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    What a knob...clearly living in fairy land.

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    Its ridiculous. We are currently on benefits due to both in fulltime study. We have 1 child and plan to have another in 2015. We won't be on the dole forever, but I'm not holding back on having my children when I want to.

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    Does he just mean women or men too? What forms of contraception is acceptable? Should this be applied to all ages or just those who are in fertile years? What benefits is he referring to? How will it be administered and enforced? Are they going to have someone checking that blokes are wearing condoms? Has anyone in his office spent a nanosecond doing a cost-benefit analysis? I think not.
    Twit.

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