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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    Is the mum very young?
    30 yrs old according to news reports

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I thought the baby was alive? How has the other been charged with murder?
    She has been charged with attempted murder

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    Sorry I meant attemped murder
    I was also discharged from the hospital within 6 hours of my babies birth, by choice, but what I mean is why would she be discharged when there was clearly something wrong? Surely someone capable of something this horrendous couldn't appear completely normal and safe to leave the hospital hours after giving birth??
    And you're right, she should have had follow ups from a midwife, or at least ONE friend or family member should have noticed the baby missing?!?! So strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    Is the mum very young?
    Nope she is 30.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I thought the baby was alive? How has the other been charged with murder?
    She's been charged with attempted murder.

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    I know this is going to cause discomfort, but why do we always fall to mental health issues every time a woman is involved in hurting her child? She may well have PND but she also may not as well. We don't know why she did it yet. She threw her son 2.5 metres after squeezing him though a hole so he would never be found and would die.

    I'm really struggling to feel empathy for her. Had she left him at the hospital or dumped him at a public place I would have.
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    I've been thinking about this a lot since yesterday and I'm so torn. I'm a huge campaigner for mental illness and understand the severity of it, but at the same time, surely just leave the baby at the hospital and walk out? But I guess we'll never know the headspace the Mum was/is in.

    I really hope the bub recovers well and no long term damage has been done. I'm blown away bub survived 4 or so days without its Mum and in those kind of horrible conditions.

    This story just breaks my heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I know this is going to cause discomfort, but why do we always fall to mental health issues every time a woman is involved in hurting her child? She may well have PND but she also may not as well. We don't know why she did it yet.
    I default to a mental health issue because I don't want to think anyone is so psychopathic and cruel as to do it without any other mental health issue at play :-(

    But you're right.. It's not necessarily related..

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I know this is going to cause discomfort, but why do we always fall to mental health issues every time a woman is involved in hurting her child? She may well have PND but she also may not as well. We don't know why she did it yet.
    has there ever been any case of mums murdering their babies with no mental health issues?
    not being cheeky, seriously keen to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I know this is going to cause discomfort, but why do we always fall to mental health issues every time a woman is involved in hurting her child? She may well have PND but she also may not as well. We don't know why she did it yet.
    The way I view it, anyone who can do something like this has some kind of mental illness. Maybe not PND, but surely there is an underlying issue.

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    About her family and friends maybe they didn't know she was pregnant.

    Maybe she wasn't showing because she was doing a pregnancy denial.
    And maybe getting ride of the baby was just the last step in denying the pregnancy.

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    I totally get that it's easier to accept if we think she has a MI. I would think the assault/death of a child is like that of an adult. There are plenty of people that don't have a diagnosible MI that hurt others. I also think defence teams will always try the insanity defence in these cases, and MI is not like having a medical condition that can be proven with blood tests. It can be relatively easy to fake.

    I just wonder if this was a man that threw him down there, what our responses would be? Going on past experience it would be much more scathing.

    If she was psychotic then I would say her actions weren't in her control. Beyond that? Seek help. Like I said, dump the baby on someone's door step or on the DoCS door step. Do a runner from the hospital. I know I sound heartless but my empathy is for that baby and what he has been through.

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