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    @faithandhopellove im thinking of you. The pain must be terrible! Hope everything will be ok and you can continue tomorrow. @leyshoja try to push for 2. Not sure if you get any frosties out of yr cycles but as @Fudge09 said, dont leave them in dish. I cant push for 2 as my FS strictly does only 1. Its disappointing coz at my Nov14 cycle i had 4 fertilised, 1 FET and rest was gone few days after.

    Got question though. Had my FS appointment today to discuss whether to go for ICSI #6. We are going to go ahead but it looks like it will be the last one. 😢
    Had scan today, got BT tomorrow but still have to wait for another month.
    Am i doing the right thing? Have i already given up?

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    I've been trying to stay off the internet (and Google) so as not to drive myself crazy. It's amazing how many different ways you can phrase the same search to read endless amounts of information! Bh moves so quickly, but good luck to everyone stimming, here's hoping for lots of nice follies. @leyshoja I've always put back 2 when I have them them, and never gotten any to freeze, but my last cycle we got 4 to freeze (freeze all due to OHSS) and my fs just put back 1 this time. It was a hard decision for me to make as I've never had a BFP and always thought putting back 2 would increase my chances. He said these were much better quality & didn't want to risk putting in 2 and possibly 1 splitting etc. @faithandhopellove hope you are feeling better & recover soon. Hopefully not OHSS, that's not fun. And neither is the maternity ward - I was in there about 6 weeks ago for 4 days (no beds anywhere else) due to bad throat infection. Lovely ward but listening to the babies is a bit of a kick in the pants. And @Chiefsgirl I really love that quote. It gives some hope
    AFM 4dp 5dt and still no symptoms. I did have acupuncture yesterday, and about 2 hours later I got so tired & felt a couple of little twinges (so small I may have been imagining things), but it only lasted an hour. I was at work though, so maybe I just felt better close to home time lol
    Trying not to overthink & stress. The symptoms I had in previous cycles were obviously due to the medication as there was no BFP, so maybe no symptoms is good. My best friend (41) is just 6 weeks pregnant (naturally after 1 failed dismal ivf round) and says she feels no different. I just feel so normal it's unsettling.
    On a happier note, have a nice long weekend ladies

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    Faithandhopellove yourluck has to change soon! What was their diagnosis, did they ultrasound you? Can your FS shed any light on the situation? Wow this has happened after just a few days stimming, are you on high doses? Hoping this does not disrupt your cycle and that you feel better soon.
    So confronting having to be in the maternity ward!
    Could anyone help me with the definition of FFS? I assume it contains one or more four letter words?

    Petal the TWW is the most torturous part of this whole thing. During stims you have something to do every day but during the TWW you just, well, wait..... I know many have said it before but symptom spotting doesn't help although we all do it. Crossing fingers for that BFP or as Blonde would say, that BFFP!

    Leyshoja, hope you don't mind if I chime in late on the one vs two debate. I think all the ladies have made valid points. But, I assume your embryos, being from donor eggs, were created from young eggs not 40+ year old eggs? In this case your age does not affect their chance of success and your risk of twins is higher than it would be with your own eggs. Therefore, I agree with Luckyme, the risk of twins outweighs the benefits. It would be a different story with 40+ year old eggs where I would be saying transfer two. In my own case, even with 42 year old eggs I would never transfer 2 because I would not want to put all my eggs in the one basket. And if your embryos are frozen you're not actually leaving them in the dish, they are there for you whenever you want them in the future. Of course it's your body and your decision but just wanted to add my thoughts. Oh yeah, and there is a theory that a vanishing twin can cause some inflammation that affects the surviving twin long term.

    Winsor, how was your follicle scan today?

    MaxKat, I always write my list of questions down on paper so I don't forget them during the appointment. In regards to giving up, why not pursue this cycle if you can afford it financially. For all of us over 40, time is of the essence. You don't want to quit then regret it next year or further down the track.

    AFM, trigger tonight! It has happened very quickly this time
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    @Skyler its not about the finances but due to this FS (same as my first one) saying that this may be it. He still wants me to go for March cycle which I will, but if there will be poor response with nothing to collect or another cancelation, he is going to tell me it may be over. I have asked about my chances and again same as previous FS, its less than 10%. I don't know if I can go through disappointed over and over again. I don't even get to the transfer stage 😢. What a weekend ahead.
    But all fingers crossed to all you girls stimming! Be positive, coz it does happen!
    Sending hugs to all girls who are going through pain whether is psychological or physical. Tomorrow is another day, and you never know whats there for you.

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    @faithhopeandllove so sorry to hear this! i hope you're feeling better & it hasn't interrupted your cycle. keep safe.

    I had my u/s and this time there's 3 follicles, all around the same size. 1x 14 on left and a 1x 14 + 1x 15 on right. this is good for me, so i'm happy. just hoping they all have good mature eggs in them. usually there's at least one on left which is a couple/few cms ahead of the rest, and sometimes only left side works and none on right. no little ones. though she said it was pretty cloudy viewing this time so maybe there are but they're usually too small anyway. maybe the right side being ahead this time is the thing we need. fx. I have another scan mon. possibly trigger mon/tues depending on how fast they're growing. i think we're a couple of days ahead from other cycles as usually i would trigger wed (by prev calcs, and collect on day13). so not sure why that happened, as i'm on same dose meds as previous

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    good luck @Petal40, I hope you can relax over the long weekend too

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    i understand @MaxKat, i hope the march cycle is the surprise win for you. it's very upsetting when they don't work.

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    That sounds promising for you Winsor. It is actually a good thing that you're responding differently this time, well that's how I look at it. I've asked my Dr and the nurses many times, why do I get a good CGH embryo one cycle, then only bad embryos for the next 2 cycles? It's so frustrating because I have been on gonal f 250 iu every time. Their answer is always 'no reason, just inter cycle variability'. The nurses thought my Dr would increase my dose this time but she didn't and weirdly enough my follicle growth has been a lot quicker. Although it's a down reg, rather than an antagonist. Beats me.... But I'm glad there is such a thing as inter cycle variability otherwise the results would always be the same and we don't want that! (Unless cycle 1 brought a BFP!).
    By the way I would be questioning the ultrasonographer for saying it was cloudy viewing today. That's likely due to her lack of skill or laziness unless you are a bigger girl (fat tissue makes ultrasound difficult). The machines they use are worth $$$$$$ and have many adjustments that can be made on their settings for getting a good view in almost any case.

    MaxKat, that's a hard predicament for you being told by two specialists that your chances are low. But as you say, it does happen.

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    Hi ladies, sorry for the short post, I'm feeling terrible today. I went to my pt session and was fine throughout -it was hard but not excessively. But afterwards I felt like I was going to throw up and I have a splitting headache, I think I maybe overheated, I did drink 1.5ltrs of water so must be it.

    FFS I take to mean For Fu*k Sakes, but that could just be my dirty mouth!
    @leshoja, I'll just chime in on the double embie discussion, I am 41 and this is my third year of ivf. I have done double transfers all the way (except the first one). But in dec last year I was diagnosed with HLA matches with DH. This essentially means we have some DNA strands that are the same (apparently quite common). So I have a 50% chance of having a baby that has the matching DNA strands. When this happens my body goes into an immune response and kills off the baby seeing it as 'self, but not quite self'. So I have found out that by transferring 2 I might have killed off a perfectly good embryo because one of them may have had the matching strands. Where if I had put them back one at a time, one wd not have made it (because of the matches), but the other probably wd (if it was chromosomally normal as well). So if you haven't had any of those tests done, I'd be putting back one. But I come from the knowledge of my immune issues and now the HLA matches so I don't have a choice.
    @faithhopellove I hope it's not OHSS and you're feeling better.
    @Skyler good luck for epu, is that a sun pick up? Or did you post today (sat) and your pick up is. Mon?
    @winsor nice scan results. It's always nice to have them growing evenly.

    AFM, still jabbing the multitude of needles, only 4 tonight as I have 600 gonal f left in my pen. Tmw I drop the dose and add menopur so more mixing and another needle!

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    Oh gosh @Petal40 I didn't mean to forget you! I hope you are able to relax for the rest of your tww. Just think. This is actually the only time you can't really do anything. Once you get your BFP you'll be stressing about hcg levels and possible outcomes, this is your last chance to relax!

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