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    Wow, that moved quickly over the past two days when I haven't been near the computer

    Leisylou.... hang in there with your cycling. The one thing I always found is that you could never predict how the cycle was going to go.... sometimes it went longer or shorter than I thought it should and it turned out better than an average length cycle, changing meds were meant to make certain differences and they didn't etc etc. As for injections, I am a complete needle phobe and always have been. I cannot look at the needle even sitting on the table, so thankfully my DH has been amazing - he has this no fuss, stand against the wall (so I can't back away) attitude, which is just what I need. Lots of people have said ice does the trick, but I can't stand the thought of cold ice on my tummy, and know, for me, it's not the actual sting of the needle, but the whole mental thing, and ice won't help my mental view of needles!! I know that's probably not much help, but perhaps knowing other people's experiences might help pave the way.

    Luckyme... so sorry to hear that this one didn't stick.

    I won't get Friday's BT results until tomorrow (Mon) as my specialist never rang back and the GP on-call wouldn't tell me the results over the phone, so have no idea if I'm safely over the 6 week mark yet or not.

    However, I really have no idea why this IUI worked, when 8 stim cycles of my own eggs and 4 cycles using my sister's donor eggs didn't work. It totally doesn't make any sense. As Emski and Blonde say, it's really, unfortunately a bit of luck and is in the lap of the gods. For me, changing meds, protocols, cycle lengths etc etc didn't make any difference. Moving onto donor eggs, I really thought was going to do the trick, but no.

    I wrote this somewhere else, but for the new readers I'll write it again.
    Things that I did differently in this IUI, compared to the previous 12 cycles:
    - I didn't eat pineapple core
    - I didn't do acupuncture
    - I didn't have an endometrial scratch

    What did I do, that I think played a part:
    - I continued taking Clexane at 60, as I have for four cycles
    - I took Neupogen (a daily form of IVIG) for the second cycle in a row, so it's spread out, rather just in one go as an infusion
    - I only had Intrallipid infusion before the IUI, rather than the much more expensive IVIG, but I think it was the two previous cycles using IVIG that helped build up what my body needed (and these two cycles were my first ever recorded levels of Hcg at 3 and 5 respectively)
    - by not having a transfer, there was no chance of my uterus going into a spasm during the transfer and ejecting the little thing straight away (there is a little bit of research about this, some FS are prescribing relaxants etc for transfer, but my FS wouldn't entertain the thought)

    I asked "why did this work and not the 12 invasive previous cycles", but neither my FS nor my immune specialist could sufficiently answer this. My FS answer was, "for someone who has tried so many times, it was bound to happen." Very scientific there! My immune specialist was a bit stumped and really just agreed with my, "Perhaps it's a build up of the immune meds."

    I'm not sure that helps some of you at all, but I guess it's perseverance that pays off. Believe my, I have cried and howled for the whole of the first two years and never thought I get through it. Believe me, I have paid out so much money, that I don't want to think about it, and certainly my DH is particularly annoyed about the money (that's mild terms!!) Believe me, I've withdrawn from so many social events and lunches with friends, as I've just coped with this journey. No wonder I'm addicted to Bubhub!!!

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    Hi girls, hoping you've all had a nice weekend! We're just back from a camping trip.

    Luckyme, why not have a go with your own eggs. Lots of us here are also 42 and trying with our own eggs. I am doing CGH testing on my embryos. This way we know if their chromosomal make up is correct before transferring them. I have taken my Dr and embryologist's advice to do this. It may be an idea for you too Leisylou, if you end up doing ivf.

    Leyshoja, hoping you get well soon and the hospital staff are giving you all the TLC you need. What an ordeal!

    MGC Bertie, this is an edit as I must have been posting at the same time as you just before. My fingers are crossed so tightly for you. It's interesting how you mentioned how this process has affected you socially. I have found that I have really distanced myself from one particular friend but I have become closer to others.

    Hi to everybody else
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    @MGC Bertie fingers crossed for you. I hope you have the easist pregnancy ever. As for what it was that made this cycle different. I am with you in thinking that we put too much pressure on ourselves thinking if we just do some things differently we can make it happen. By using that theory wouldn't that then mean when it didn't happen it is our fault or something we have done? The simple fact is that we can do the best we can to manipulate nature but at the end of the day it is all in the lap of the gods. My DH is in the police and has been in places where his "clients" are sitting in their houses surrounded by the drugs they use, smoking cigarettes while holding their perfect newborn baby or pregnant. It upsets him enormously that Somehow nature seems to take care of these babies as infuriating as it is!

    Ps Bertie I meant to ask earlier but how did your DH react to your BFP?

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    Good point Fudge. I always blame myself for the things I do or don't do once a cycle has failed. A classic example is stress. I have a severely stressful job and I always wonder if that is a factor. The counsellor at the clinic says no. She says 'a death in the family' type stress ie really high stress, could affect it but not every day stress. I blame myself because I am a stress head. But she said look at all the women who get pregnant in refugee camps and in famine and war zones! (Typical me then thinks, yes but they are 20 year olds not 42 year olds...anyway...).
    Within reason there is little we can do to make or break a cycle and blaming ourselves for the little things we do doesn't help. Last night I took my synarel an hour an a half late and was kicking myself big time, but I have to stop this self flagellation!

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    Sorry leyshoja, that sounds horrible. I hope they get the infection under control quickly.

    Thanks guys for the advice, hope next FET works so we don't need to worry.

    I just wish I knew what is going to happen with this threatened miscarriage or whatever I am at the moment.

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    Fudge... interestingly my DH didn't react quite as excitedly as I thought he would, but really he's been quite calm and reserved throughout the whole of this, sometimes I think bottling things up. My parents and brother were very excited as I was at their house when I found out about the BFP. I do also wonder if my DH wasn't so excited, because he was annoyed that we'd spent so much money on 12 cycles of IVF, only to get the BFP on a relative easy IUI. He would have given up a long time ago, but let me keep trying, so I think there's a bit of tension there.

    Then I don't know if it's just a "male" thing, but he's not particularly interested in talking about topics such as natural vs c-section, how to fit a crib in our extremely small bedroom, buying prams, thinking of names or anything I think of to try to get him involved.

    I don't know if it's also secretly because the baby is from donor sperm, and now it's really hit him, but really don't think suggesting more counselling would help. He's decided he is happy to tell his family about the donor sperm, but doesn't want to tell friends, colleagues etc, which is fine, as I always said that decision would be his. The baby will be brought up to know that he/she's from donor sperm, and DH is happy to cross any hurdles further down the track, e.g. we don't tell our best friends, but later, say when the child is 5 he/she spurts it out to them (or their kids), and then our friends question us why we didn't tell them. But DH says we'll worry about that at that time.

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    MGC Bertie, life is so random, and you just never know when it's your turn.

    You will be wonderful parents. And the reasons why other **** parents have kids is random. My sister has four kids and none are in her care. She had kids easily and we struggled, but we're better parents. What's that about. Life is so random, it's how we cope together with it's randomness that counts.

    Now we know that cancer is random and there is nothing that anybody can do and did. This was your roll of the dice and it worked and it's your good turn. Whoop whoop.

    We're seeing doc on Tuesday so I'll ask him questions about a stim cycle but hope the FET works.

    Another ****er, my sister also had an abortion in September, probably an embryo older than my beautiful button baby will ever be.

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    sorry to be brief ladies, on my phone.

    @LuckyMe definitely give ivf another shot, sounds like you have some working eggs left.

    @MGC Bertie give your DH time, my fella wasn't nearly as bonded as I was until a few weeks after our son was on the scene. I think he got a bit bored of my blow by blow descriptions of every kick and types of carrier to buy. Two days before the induction he was still in denial I think! They don't get it until the baby is there smiling/screaming at them.

    @leyshoja ah jeeze..... Big hugs girl. You really need a break.

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    Default IVF over 40 #11

    Well, still not back at work and lying here feeling a bit sorry for myself when my boss rings to see how I am. After a lot of 'woe is me'ing by me, he gave me some bad news. A lovely man I work with had a near heart attack 2 weeks ago but got to hospital in time for a bypass however during the op developed an aneurism and they are turning off his life support today.
    And here's me whinging about this m/c
    Probably the wake up I needed. Life can always be worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyme1 View Post
    MGC Bertie, life is so random, and you just never know when it's your turn.

    You will be wonderful parents. And the reasons why other **** parents have kids is random. My sister has four kids and none are in her care. She had kids easily and we struggled, but we're better parents. What's that about. Life is so random, it's how we cope together with it's randomness that counts.

    Now we know that cancer is random and there is nothing that anybody can do and did. This was your roll of the dice and it worked and it's your good turn. Whoop whoop.

    We're seeing doc on Tuesday so I'll ask him questions about a stim cycle but hope the FET works.

    Another ****er, my sister also had an abortion in September, probably an embryo older than my beautiful button baby will ever be.
    Jeez that just not fair is it !!


 

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