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    Default Diagnosed with high NK cells after 2 miscarriages. Help!

    Hi ladies, I'm 24. I've had two miscarriages this year back to back. The first at 9.5 weeks, the second at nearly 12 weeks. Both were missed miscarriages. No GP nor OB in my area wanted to do any testing. All say it's "just bad luck". Travelled to Sydney to see top miscarriage specialist. Tests came back showing high NK cells 19.6%. Apparently normal is less than 12%? The specialist who I'm really happy with doesn't think I should be placed on a steroid based treatment - only progesterone pessaries. I'm worried this just won't be enough to avoid another miscarriage.

    However, I do agree with him that steroids aren't a good idea for me. I'm not really sure about HIS reason for it - he cited my age? But after reading the possible side effects I personally feel steroids aren't for me anyway. I have anxiety and a history of depression. My ovarian reserve came back at above average - 92 pmol/L. I assume that's a good thing? Feeling a little overwhelmed and unsure about everything. My husband and I desperately want a baby. We've decided we'd put off trying until the new year to give my body a rest and make sure I'm as healthy as possible. After doing some research on NK cells I've started taking high dosage fish oil tablets.

    I guess my question is are there any other ladies out there in my situation and have any of you gone on to have a healthy baby from simply using progesterone pessaries (not steroids or IVig). Can anyone suggest anything else I can do to lower my NK cells naturally? Or does anyone have a theory of why our NK cells are elevated in the first place? Other than my history of anxiety the only symptoms I can think of that I have had long term are constantly cold hands and feet, sore neck and tmj and a family history of hypothyroidism yet my tests for that came back normal. Thank you in advance xxx

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    Hi Hun i too have had early preg miscarriages well i havent made it to six weeks all were before the 6 week mark no other reason for infertility so had NK cell biopsy and i have high uterine NK cells im guessing yours are blood due to ur results. i have basically refused to beleive thats its immune aused so i have continued with ivf with only my clinics intralipids and have had two early miscarriages im now at my whits end and cant handle the losses anymore so my next cycle i will be using the steroids and intralipids, the intralipids are only soy and fat based they will cause no harm at all you could try that alone before using steroids i have been so against steroids during pregnancy and have had been arguing with myself for so long my fertility specialist says no all drs say no but reproductive immunologist says i need to for y body to hold onto the pregnancy and the NK cells not to attack the embryo there is a whole thread dedicated to NK cells and women doing treatment if you havent already looked over there, also Dr mathias is the best reproductive immunologist and he does proper intralipids all other places do infusions over 20mins-1hr where he does it over 5-6 hours and uses a larger dose and like i sid there is no harm in doing it to you ir baby because it is all natural stuff go with ur instinct it needs to sit right with you i was dead against it and gut told me no but now i feel i have no choice you may be kucjy enough to only do intralipids by itself, i havent heard of any girls using only prog pessaries, good luck in which ever path you choose

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    Thank you so much for replying and I'm so sorry for your losses and struggles. I am seeing Dr Sacks (I wasn't sure if we were allowed to mention specialists so I didn't say it before) but yeah I've found him very good but I'm just a little concerned that the progesterone won't be enough. Yes I too haven't seen anyone mention using only progesterone - everyone seems to be on steroids and progesterone as well as a blood thinner. I might copy and paste my post over in the nk cell section. Thank you again and I wish you all the best of luck xxxx

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    Oh also would you mind giving me an idea of how much the intralipid infusions cost? Thank you

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    I tried to pm you but it says you can't receive inbox msgs
    If you don't have private health you pay $700-$800 for day admission and $650 for intralipids but if you have private health that should cover the hospital part 😊


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    Thank you Yeah I'm not sure what's wrong with my messages. I tried to go into them and it said I don't have permission for that? Weird. I'm only a new member though. Maybe admin needs to sign off on something first? Not sure

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    Oh okay, thank you

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    It worked 😊 maybe u needed a certain amount of posts but it went through ok this time


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