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    Ok so child support exempt income/self support income is approximately $23,500.

    So I earn $15,000 from part time work. My ex earns approx $70,000.

    I earn less than self support amount but my ex is over by approx $46,500. If he has another child he will also have a dependent child support amount of approx $4,000.

    Bringing relevant child support income down to $42,500.

    The relevant dependent child amount that is exempt varies according to income. The adult exempt self support amount is the same for everyone.

    Hope that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsBid View Post
    that should be dependent on the individual family. the person paying child support shouldnt have to live a crappy existance with no new family or his new family having nothing because of the child support cost.

    it seems its ok for the main parent is free to move on and have a nice life but the one left paying must suffer forever because of a relationship breakup. cool
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    Exactly this, well said :-)

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    I think a minimum income should be assumed, say full time minimum wage, so that where an ex chooses not to work, there is a adjustment to child support paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    If the mum wasn't working when the couple was together it was a parenting choice right?
    Mum raise kids, dad brings the money in.
    I guess the point of these CS arrangements is to support the same lifestyle for kids. Mum raising them, dad bringing in the money, even if they don't share a house/bed anymore.

    If the parents can afford it, why not?
    When the couple splits all bets are off. It's ridiculous to expect to maintain exactly the same lifestyle for the kids. Having a working parent isn't all that bad. Certainly not bad enough to justify one parent paying excessive $$ to support the SAHM lifestyle of the other parent. You split, your and your kids life changes. If the mum is lucky enough to shack up with a rich bloke who will pay her half of the cost for the kids so she can stay home then good on her. As long as the other parent isn't forced to pay more than half the costs of raising the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Sorry not an end but a reduction to say 50/50. Dads must always carry some financial responsibility for their children
    So you agree with my 50-50 suggestion.... Just not in the first bit.. Hmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Let's keep in mind that when the non custodial parent has more kids to someone else, his CS goes down to his 'first' children. It's been argued here why should the ex fund her lifestyle to stay at home. But why should his kids pay because he goes on to keep procreating? His other children suddenly don't eat less since Dad has had more babies to someone else, yet they get less.

    It goes both ways.
    This is normal and not unique to split families . Even if the parents are still together, when more kids come along, the purse strings tighten, budgeting ramps up and the first child gets a little less. I used to have a budget for spending money on my first born (outings, toys, clothes etc). Now that amount is halved and shared across both boys. My oldest gets less treats such as going to the zoo, indoor playgrounds at $10 a pop etc. He gets more time at free playgrounds (have become an expert at hunting them out in my local area) etc.

    Less money when circumstances change is natural. It doesn't have to mean the kid is missing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    If the mum wasn't working when the couple was together it was a parenting choice right?
    Mum raise kids, dad brings the money in.
    I guess the point of these CS arrangements is to support the same lifestyle for kids. Mum raising them, dad bringing in the money, even if they don't share a house/bed anymore.

    If the parents can afford it, why not?
    I have to agree with @VicPark here - if you're a SAHP when the other works, you cannot expect that arrangement to continue when you split. Things change.

    Mums can raise kids and bring money in too. As I know you do! they're nkt mutually exclusive.

    Usual caveats of course around finding jobs that suit hours, etc as that is sometimes a real challenge, especially when you have no support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsBid View Post
    how is it two sets of rules? the first wife and her new man pay for their kids. the first husband and his new woman pay for their kids. Neither one of the pair should be paying ANY money for the each others new children.
    I'm not sure how else to reword what I've already said. You believe the new family shouldn't have to subsidise the woman if she goes on to have more kids but are happy for the first family to subside you to have more kids in a new family.

    You say you don't think either should be paying, but the first family is by receiving less money, which you say is ok bc had the parents had more kids they would have to share anyway which I find an odd argument.

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    In any case Delirium is right, there is one set of rules and the calculation is the same for mums and dads.
    If any family is having more kids it will affect payments or receipts depending on calculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    This is normal and not unique to split families . Even if the parents are still together, when more kids come along, the purse strings tighten, budgeting ramps up and the first child gets a little less. I used to have a budget for spending money on my first born (outings, toys, clothes etc). Now that amount is halved and shared across both boys. My oldest gets less treats such as going to the zoo, indoor playgrounds at $10 a pop etc. He gets more time at free playgrounds (have become an expert at hunting them out in my local area) etc.

    Less money when circumstances change is natural. It doesn't have to mean the kid is missing out.
    Again I find this an odd argument. The parents of the first kids haven't had their parents go onto have more kids together, and under that premise the wages of the father would have stayed solely in their family, not gone to a whole new one where he takes those wages and spends them in a another household.


 

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