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    Ngaiz you are definitely not alone. I went to sleep school and if anything it got us in a routine which has helped heaps. I was BF'ing dd every 2 hours till I went to sleep school and she was about 5 months old.. She's now BF'ing every 4 hours. They got me feeding her 3 meals a day to make sure she wasn't hungry as I was bfing her heaps overnight. I was going to ask if you have tried formula as the last feed of the night? It's supposed to fill them up. 5 am is a really early start, if she doesn't resettle id bf and try and put her back down. White noise is my best friend! Dd sleeps so much better and is able to resettle with it on.. It might be worth a try to get her sleeping longer? Dd used to wake at about 6 and I'd put it on and she's sleep an extra hour or 2.
    Bedlovers advice is great.

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    I guess it varies depending on her state. If it's just a grizzle (as per SOS definition protesting cry), I'm happy to leave her to settle herself to sleep. 7/10 times she will do this. I will go in when it becomes emotional and sshh/pat her without picking her up. Once it becomes hysterical (which it very rarely does) is when I would normally feed but chose to cuddle/rock this morning. I really don't have the strength to put a time on it.

    But, this is what I get after a really crp night so how can I get upset.
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    Last nights feed was a mix of formula and ebm. I'm happy with a 6am start but not anything before. Once I'm back at work that's when she will have to get up and at least it gives her 11 hours overnight (when she starts to sleep through).

    Without knowing how a sleep school works I'm really hesitant to go even if it was going to improve things. When they're upset we just want to pick them and soothe them right?

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    Yes hysterical crying is hard to take. It sounds like your gauge is similar to mine. What a little cutie! She has no idea what she is doing to you...

    Well I was so worried about Ellie's lack of sleep that I was up researching until midnight. Then Ellie woke at 4am so I only had 4 hrs sleep. 4 is too early even for me so it was BF and back to sleep from 5-6:30.

    I've looked at her overall sleep and most days she is getting close to enough. There are lots of different ideas about what is 'normal'. I will try and help her sleep a little more through the day though, rather than just letting her stay up if she kicks up a fuss.

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    Question for those of you who have been to ss. What is the recommendation on feeding if bub wakes up early? Do you just feed or wait it out until when they were meant to wake up?

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    Ngaiz yes you are right we just want to pick them up. All I wanted to do the other morning was pick her up and give her a boob because I knew it would settle her down. However I knew I couldn't as it would be a step backwards after the progress made on the weekend at sleep school.
    Im happy to say that last night she slept from 7 pm to 7 am. I was so anxious that DH made me take half a Valium before bed. I was in a bit of state to say the least! Felt like I couldn't handle it if she started crying again during the night and would stuff up all the work done on the weekend.
    Ngaiz what you describe is very similar to What we were going through. Feeding and waking multiple times during the night. Plus DH had gone back to sleeping on the couch and that was the final straw.
    I think when you decide to go to sleep school you are scraping the bottom of the barrel. I wasn't quite there but needed to knock it on the head before it really took its toll on us.
    Regarding the amount to feed I think it would be the 180ml as suggested on the formula containers or maybe a bit more for breast milk.
    Hayley I was letting V stay up when she kicked up a fuss too, the thing is she hardly showed any signs of tiredness. I think the sleep school I've gone to has their particular way of doing things and it's probably not for everyone, but I was at the point where I needed to get more control over the situation so was happy to take what ever help was given to me.

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    Ngaiz at my ss you have to stick to the times. So it can be 7am to 7 pm day or 8 am to 8pm day. Therefor if they wake up early you resettle them or say they are in bed talking, just leave them.
    They were really strict on sticking to the times. The thing is I'm not very into routine and sticking to times so it goes against my natural inclination.

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    Ngaiz at my ss you have to stick to the times. So it can be 7am to 7 pm day or 8 am to 8pm day. Therefor if they wake up early you resettle them or say they are in bed talking, just leave them.
    They were really strict on sticking to the times. The thing is I'm not very into routine and sticking to times so it goes against my natural inclination.
    Thanks. Another one haha. Day sleeps! Dark or lit room?

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    Day sleeps - pitch black. Cover the windows if you have to with garbage bags, cover any lights coming from electrical plugs. Make it so dark and boring that they want to go to sleep.

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    Great advice on here. Ellie had a pretty good 1 hr sleep this morning from 9-10 so I'm going to put her down again between 12:30 and 1:00. We have to work on the darkness. Thankfully it's an overcast day so a bit easier to keep darkish. I'm really interested in all this. Thanks for sharing.

    Like V Ellie doesn't show many tired signs but even when she does she refuses to sleep. Now I think I'll leave her in there longer and get the room dark to help her a bit more.


 

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