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    Quote Originally Posted by meredithgrey View Post
    I think I could have worded my original post better.

    I think they get paid the appropriate amount for their job, other people don't seem to think so, so they tip to top up their wage. If the person working doesn't think they're getting enough then they should look for additional work (whether that may or may not be available) and not expect tips to supplement their income.

    As previous posters have said, this is Australia where there is a decent minimum wage, not America where there is no minimum wage and people rely on tips for their income.
    I don't necessarily think people like delivery drivers do expect tips. I know when we got food delivered in Melbourne and we tipped it was always met with a look of surprise and then a big smile and a thank you. We lived in the inner city and having food delivered took away a major PITA effort for one of us to pick up food which would involve battling heavy Friday or Saturday night traffic, no parking etc.

    We only bought from local businesses so really appreciated that they could offer (for free) a delivery service. So we tipped to show that gratitude.

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    I now only tip for good service. As someone mentioned, even delivery drivers and waiters get paid well, they don't need tips to survive.

    Unfortunately, given all,of this we rarely tip as it seems that no matter where we go, the service isn't that great.

    Its like a vicious circle, why would a service person give good service if they don't rely on tips? So in turn, why would I then tip average or mediocre service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpeamummy View Post
    Sorry Nancy Blankett I'm just trying to point out that people, young Australian families still own and operate your local Pizza Hut, Dominos or Eagle Boys. They have paid a lot of money to buy their area and are run like any other small business. They employee local people, they use local electricians and plumbers, they pay taxes and superannuation. They are still struggling Aussies like most of us.
    I'm not saying they don't struggle and I agree wholeheartedly that they contribute to our economy - and local communities.

    However, IMO they are far less vulnerable to the vagaries of the market than a stand alone, single restaurant local business and that is one of the reasons why I'm far less likely to tip if I have ordered from one.

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    I tip.
    DH wouldn't think to tip at all unless we were out for a meal.

    Back in Ireland I worked in a posh guesthouse!
    I say that because the standard was sky high.
    I was young, we had a lot if laughs there but the work was extremely hard.
    Six floors and no lifts so everything was carried by us up numerous flights if staircases.
    Anyway, we were paid, not OTT but good for that kind of work time.
    BUT, nothing put a spring in our step like getting a tip left in a bedside dish.
    It was a sign of appreciation for our hard work, and to be honest, no matter how well you're paid, you're always on a budget of some sort.
    An extra few Euro for the weekend was never expected but really appreciated.

    That's why I tip now.
    Not excessively.
    Food delivery would get rounded up or if I ordered online is throw them $3.
    I have friends that worked these jobs as they went through college and the tips made all the difference.
    I have an English hairdresser who I tip well and an Aussie hairdresser who I tip the same and it's funny how differently they respond.
    My English one, says aww thanks (kind of like it's expected) and the Aussie one practically skips out the door - chuffed! hehe

    Taxi drivers though, I don't think I've ever had a good experience in a taxi here.
    I haven't had to get one in a while but when I needed them I got drivers who were rude, unhelpful and actually asked me for directions so no, I wouldn't tip bad service.

    ETA.
    I lived in New York for 3 months and I found the tipping there to be a PIA!
    Just one example, if you're in a bar and don't tip the bar an a dollar with each drink order, he stops serving you.
    If you do tip him with each order, he would give every 5th round free, at least I think, it was a long time ago and we drank a lot!
    I really didn't like the whole pecking order in life there.
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    In 1995-ish I worked my first 'real' job as a pizza delivery driver. It was in a small country town and I was paid, from memory, around 12 bucks an hour, plus a dollar for each delivery I did in my own car. I would then maybe average around two bucks extra in tip for each delivery. It wasn't great money, the hours were really uncertain, the customers were often drunk and I did sometimes fear for my personal safety (lots of dark lonely roads with no street lights!) ...

    Now, I earn a good income, and I order pizza because I'm stuck at home with a toddler, knowing the delivery driver would have had to travel 8kms down a dark and lonely road, with no street lights at a time when bills and fuel costs are increasing, and young people are finding it harder and harder to get jobs. So I would kick them the five bucks. Plus I meet them at the bottom of my road rather than make them navigate their way up a foreign and very tricky & steep driveway. I'll also do other little thoughtful things such as, oh I dunno, remember to greet them fully dressed!!

    I'll never forget that job!

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    I always used to tip. My cousin was a pizza delivery driver. Now if I order pizza it's done online and I pay by credit card when I order so I am never handing over any cash when I collect the pizza. I feel a bit bad, but our house is literally a two minute drive from the store so I don't feel bad enough to scrounge up some change to give them.

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    I only tip at cafés or restaurants and only if I believe we were given great service and food. Generally tips in hospitality are split between all the staff (kitchen included)...well that's how it's worked in places I have worked at, so a $5 tip isn't going far if there are quite a few people working that night.

    I would never tip for pizza delivery or taxi drivers though.

    My hubby used to do pizza deliveries for a small local pizzeria and some nights he would come home with close to $100 in tips..

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    when i was in the US in 2011, i found the whole tipping thing so hard at first.. some places add the tip to your final bill, some dont so you have to work out a good amount to leave..after 2 days of stressing out about it, I decided 10% of the bill would be enough and usually i rounded it up anyway..another thing that annoyed me was $1 notes...my room was serviced daily so i always left at least $5 a day for the room attendant- I spoke to one of the girls and she said she was paid $7/an hour and had 4 kids to feed etc and no husband and she worked 12-14 hour days to make ends meet... on my last day i tipped her $50 in $10 notes and told her to give each of her kids $10 and her self an extra $10... I felt so bad that she worked so hard every day and here i was on a holiday away from my family because i wanted to.. when i came home, it made me appreciate what we have here and how lucky we are to have a good pay rate

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    I only tip for great service. It doesn't matter if it's the local fish 'n' chip shop or Jamie Oliver's restaurant, if the person taking your order puts a smile on your face, I think they deserve a tip.

    Also, I don't like when waitstaff are made to share their tips. I tip them for their individual service and they should get to keep it.

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    I tip - round up for delivery drivers and taxi drivers etc... and tip at restaurants unless the service is really crappy. I would've given $40 in the OP's scenario.


 

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