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    I dont tip. Ive had friends who have been delivery drivers and were surprisingly well paid

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    I do tip- pizza delivery, taxi, whatever. I don't mind rounding up and paying it forward now and then

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpeamummy View Post
    Except they have other costs which independents don't have to pay.
    Royalties and advertising costs. They are sometimes also seen as easy targets by landlords to charge above market rent.
    True - although on the other hand they are often considered a draw card tenant so their chain can negotiate much better lease terms than a single entity restaurant can.

    A single entity restaurant also has to source its own suppliers and negotiate terms for them. A franchise generally has all that organised for it at far more attractive rates than a small restaurant could ever manage.

    There marketing and publicity costs a franchise pays buys them far more exposure than they could otherwise get for the same amount of money if they weren't part of a national chains and of course is far more lucrative than it otherwise would be.

    A national or state wide Pizza Hut or Domino's ad campaign for $5 pizzas will bring in far more customers than any campaign by a small loca restaurant - hence they can offer $5 pizzas when a local pizza restaurant simply couldn't produce a pizza for such a small amount and sustain their business.

    And as @Sonja mentioned, I wouldn't want a local pizza place to make a $5 pizza because it would taste BLERGH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    And the pizza usually tastes like cr#p if it's a chain
    Too true. Too true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meredithgrey View Post
    But then where do you draw the line at tipping? If you don't think delivery drivers get paid enough so you tip them, would you also tip petrol station attendants, checkout chicks, shop assistants, child care workers etc?
    I get what you're saying here. Like I said earlier in the thread, I don't tip delivery drivers. I was just saying that I don't think it's as black and white as you suggested. It's not as easy for some people to just 'get a better paying job'. So that wouldn't be my reason *not* to tip, iykwim. I don't see a problem with tipping someone who stands out as doing an amazing job. Just like I would write a letter to the manager of a petrol station attendant or a macca's if I got amazing service. I wouldn't be considering what their income was or anything because it's not about that to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    True - although on the other hand they are often considered a draw card tenant so their chain can negotiate much better lease terms than a single entity restaurant can.

    A single entity restaurant also has to source its own suppliers and negotiate terms for them. A franchise generally has all that organised for it at far more attractive rates than a small restaurant could ever manage.

    There marketing and publicity costs a franchise pays buys them far more exposure than they could otherwise get for the same amount of money if they weren't part of a national chains and of course is far more lucrative than it otherwise would be.

    A national or state wide Pizza Hut or Domino's ad campaign for $5 pizzas will bring in far more customers than any campaign by a small loca restaurant - hence they can offer $5 pizzas when a local pizza restaurant simply couldn't produce a pizza for such a small amount and sustain their business.

    And as @Sonja mentioned, I wouldn't want a local pizza place to make a $5 pizza because it would taste BLERGH.
    They are mostly owned by small business. The family next door who have borrowed half a million dollars to buy into these companies. They also don't have much if any say in these $5 marketing campaigns and probably make less than $1 from each pizza they sell at those prices.

    The families who are buying the Pizza Hut and Dominos are usually trying to get value for money unfortunately not gourmet. I know that I can feed my family the cheapest on takeaway pizza than any other takeaway.

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    I don't tip but I do write/tell management if I get great service.

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    My pizza place already charges $4.50 delivery fee so I would hope that means the driver earns a decent hourly rate.

    It usually costs us $40 for pizzas delivered so I can't afford to tip on top of that.

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    Sorry Nancy Blankett I'm just trying to point out that people, young Australian families still own and operate your local Pizza Hut, Dominos or Eagle Boys. They have paid a lot of money to buy their area and are run like any other small business. They employee local people, they use local electricians and plumbers, they pay taxes and superannuation. They are still struggling Aussies like most of us.

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    We always tip for good service. Its remembered and we get even better service next time we are there.


 

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