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    Not that much more for young teenagers and their wants. I remember being told by my mother at 13 that if I wanted the $100 pair of Levis to get a job. The $4 an hour Maccas job took some hours to save for those. My Levis still cost $100 20 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    Probably. But cost of living will be more.

    Just reading back I'm surprised I'm in the minority. It's just something I have always done. Not everywhere but it's second nature for me.
    Same!! I've been to a few dinners with people who are not my friends (friends hens for example) and it's excruciating when some people tip and others don't (and who wouldn't tip for good service and a large table?!).

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    Admittedly I've never been to the US, but my understanding is that in the hospitality industry the staff are paid pittance by the business and they make most of their money from tips. The business also charges less than what they would here to balance the fact the customer is paying for the product and the tip.

    In Australia they would be on around $16-20 an hour which isn't fabulous but is livable. Happy to be corrected but that is why I thought the US tips by habit and we don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpeamummy View Post
    What's the difference between tipping a chain or an independent? I only ask because most chains are franchised independently only. They are small businesses as well.
    It's a combination of reasons really. Not least of which ins that independently owned franchises still benefit enormously from the buying and bargaining power of the mothership so their costs tend to be lower than a small local restaurants.

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    I don't leave big tips but I do generally tip. I don't think it is necessary to top big here in Australia because we do pay higher prices for meals etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by meredithgrey View Post
    I don't tip.

    The delivery drivers would be getting minimum wage, if not more. If they want more money, then go find another job.
    However if we adopt this attitude towards all people working a job that only pays minimum wage, then a number of vital community services may not be performed because no one is willing to do the jobs. Not everyone has grown up with sufficient opportunity or privilege in their life for 'just get a better job' to be a realistic option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpeamummy View Post
    Not that much more for young teenagers and their wants. I remember being told by my mother at 13 that if I wanted the $100 pair of Levis to get a job. The $4 an hour Maccas job took some hours to save for those. My Levis still cost $100 20 years later.
    Again yep probably. I just think it makes them feel like it's worthwhile.

    Haven't really given it a huge amount of thought. I tip - I like the way it makes me feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    It's a combination of reasons really. Not least of which ins that independently owned franchises still benefit enormously from the buying and bargaining power of the mothership so their costs tend to be lower than a small local restaurants.

    And the pizza usually tastes like cr#p if it's a chain

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyBlackett View Post
    It's a combination of reasons really. Not least of which ins that independently owned franchises still benefit enormously from the buying and bargaining power of the mothership so their costs tend to be lower than a small local restaurants.
    Except they have other costs which independents don't have to pay.
    Royalties and advertising costs. They are sometimes also seen as easy targets by landlords to charge above market rent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Admittedly I've never been to the US, but my understanding is that in the hospitality industry the staff are paid pittance by the business and they make most of their money from tips. The business also charges less than what they would here to balance the fact the customer is paying for the product and the tip.

    In Australia they would be on around $16-20 an hour which isn't fabulous but is livable. Happy to be corrected but that is why I thought the US tips by habit and we don't.
    No that's pretty much it. There is no minimum wage for these jobs in the US so they can't survive without tips.


 

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