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    So does the WHO make it compulsory for all countries to provide breastfeeding materials to every pregnant woman in the public health system?

    I understand the not promoting ff, but again, I'm not sure what "powers" the WHO have over governments regarding no promotion of formula. I would have still thought it was up to each individual government's health department to make that call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    It's not the government per se, it's the WHO code we are bound by- which is also why there is no formula flyer. I posted a link a page or two back.
    But see, that really grinds my gears. WHO has offered a recommendation, not a law or an edict. Particularly given the same WHO released the huge meta-analysis showing very little long term benefit to bfing, it seems hospitals and med pros are cherry picking research then using it deliberately blind sight mothers from getting full information. It goes back to my statement that I believe formula is a healthy, viable option. It should be discussed with mothers, not hidden away like some dirty secret, this is exactly the behaviour, imo, that is leading to PND. The med pros paint formula in such an unfavorable light that it's no wonder so many women who 'fail' at bfing end up with depression - bc they are taught that it isn't a good option, that it's poison.

    Given ffing is legal, and babies are eating, this control of women and their choices is outrageous. If all GP's and health clinics decided abortion was bad, and studies showed it can cause mental health and medical issues for the mother (which it does). Then the clinics refused to provide any support, guidance or referral based on these 'recommendations' the outcry would be huge. Women would scream they were having information and their bodily autonomy taken away. But somehow it's ok to do that with women and formula, which is also about bodily autonomy.

    Hospitals have no right to withhold this information from new mothers. The sad thing is, they will ignore this study, keep chalking the PND up to not bfing and keep up this same offensive behaviour which leads to more PND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adeline14 View Post

    I can't understand why they keep thrusting the same information at mums which is bf benefits for mum and baby yada, yada, yada but without more support there aren't gonna be any more bf mums.
    I have said it so many times in my time on this forum. The ABA is so completely out of touch with why bfing rates are so terrible. They are still bogged down thinking it's bc mothers don't know the benefits of bfing. It's been rammed down our throats for decades how can we not know? The reasons are so much more complex in reality and imo are just what you said. Immense pressure to bf from med pros, society and themselves, with crap practical support. If you have a few attachment issues in the beginning, sore nips, the ABA is great. But if you fall into the category like myself, Beebs and so many outspoken ffers on here, we are left in the wilderness and labelled quitters and lazy mums by the same agencies and professionals that are meant to be helping us.

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    You can get scripts for specialised formulas but it can be difficult as medicare restricted the prescribing to certain doctors.

    I think a 200% mark up on what is an essential food item is abhorrent.

    Eta-Most QLD MCHN clinics have free a LC. Mine was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngaiz View Post
    Y

    Eta-Most QLD MCHN clinics have free a LC. Mine was great.
    That's so good. Here in NSW that isn't the case. Our nearest LC is a 4-5 hour drive away

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    That's so good. Here in NSW that isn't the case. Our nearest LC is a 4-5 hour drive away
    That's pretty rubbish I'm not too sure about rural Qld though tbh

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    Universal sounds good to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    If formula was to be subsidised it would have to be universal. No one wants to have to go to a GP and explain why they need formula. Wasn't that floated by someone at some stage and there was an outcry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngaiz View Post
    You can get scripts for specialised formulas but it can be difficult as medicare restricted the prescribing to certain doctors.

    I think a 200% mark up on what is an essential food item is abhorrent.

    Eta-Most QLD MCHN clinics have free a LC. Mine was great.
    I found the free lc's at the mchn clinics werent very good & I saw a number of them. I was also pretty unimpressed with the hospital lc who just said i had to ebf if i couldnt bf - when my baby was newborn & cluster feeding & id already told her that i couldnt keep up & wasnt getting any sleep because of pumping all the time. The free lc's didnt believe me when I said bf was still hurting even with shields & didnt spend much time to work out why it was hurting & why bub couldnt attach without them & just said 'you'll have to keep using the shields'.

    The private ibclc I forked out $120 was much better & worth the money but it is still a big cost financially given my phi doesnt cover it. I definitely think they should be subsidised by medicare, especially as not everyone can access the free sevices or recieve the assistance they require from them.

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    Also, this is me being precious I’m sure, but I haven’t slept in weeks so I’m blaming that.

    There are some posters who are trying to be helpful with their input, but by constantly quoting WHO guidelines and repeating BF is optimal, it’s almost as bad as someone coming in and saying “you’re a bad mum for FF!”. Not quite as bad, but almost. We GET it! It doesn’t need to be repeated in every thread in the bottlefeeding support section.

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    All the recommendations in the world aren't going to make some mothers be able to breastfeed. As Del says there are studies coming out all time showing much more realistic benefits for breastfed babies - ie not wildly over inflated. You're not a bad mum

    Quote Originally Posted by Anjalee View Post
    Also, this is me being precious I’m sure, but I haven’t slept in weeks so I’m blaming that.

    There are some posters who are trying to be helpful with their input, but by constantly quoting WHO guidelines and repeating BF is optimal, it’s almost as bad as someone coming in and saying “you’re a bad mum for FF!”. Not quite as bad, but almost. We GET it! It doesn’t need to be repeated in every thread in the bottlefeeding support section.

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