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    I agree - but I also would much rather these kinds of things were used to increase education and awareness of what exactly a rape culture is ... and how we (as a society) blame the victim.

    Even if we think we dont - society on the whole always seems to

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    I think this is a disgrace. We should stop putting our resources into finding ways for women to stop themselves from being raped and start putting a lot more of our time, effort and finances into finding ways to stop rapists from raping!

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    A disgrace? Slightly OTT.

    Are pepper sprays and rape alarms a disgrace? I like the locking your car analogy. Yes it would be great if you could leave your car unlocked as people wouldn't steal. But they do, so let's so what we can to prevent it.

    The four guys or whoever it was invented this aren't going to tackle the rape issue. But they spent their time developing something that could reduce the risk for a small number of women. That's better than nothing. And calling it (and therefore them) a disgrace is... Well, disgraceful.

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    Whats a disgrace is blaming women for the way they dress or how much they have had to drink, a disgrace is comments like "she was asking for it" etc etc.

    This is not a disgrace, no one is saying that rape is ok. No one is saying that its the womans fault. This is simply a tool that women can use. How is this any different to the drink coasters in america that you dip in the drink and they change colour if the drink has been spiked?

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    What about other drugs that are used too though? I would hate someone to have the nail polish, think the drink is safe but then there's another type of drug in there.

    I think it's a great idea, especially like previous people say even if it just helps one person.

    I wonder how much it will cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedCreamingSoda View Post
    I think this is a disgrace. We should stop putting our resources into finding ways for women to stop themselves from being raped and start putting a lot more of our time, effort and finances into finding ways to stop rapists from raping!
    I think anything to help people from being attacked is not a disgrace at all. If there is something that could help me then I'm all for it.

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    The problem is this is sketchy technology at best. From what I've read it will not react to all date rape drugs, it can give false positives including reacting to such suspect substances as cows milk and the response time can be quite variable (these issues are present in the coasters a pp mentioned too)
    I have a few issues with the nail polish.
    Will there be blame if someone doesn't use it? Is this just another way to make us responsible for preventing rape instead of addressing the wider issue of rape culture and young men not being taught what rape is and to not do it?
    If your drink tests positive- what do you do? Refuse it and leave so he can target someone else? Call the police and hope they arrive before he leaves?
    Also stats show an overwhelmingly large proportion of sexual assault victims are attacked by someone they know- not a stranger. How likely are we to test a drink bought by a friend?
    Another issue is the fact that the most common thing used to spike drinks is not rohypnol or ketamine or some other prescription drug- it's alcohol. Adding extra shots etc.

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    I think it can empower women. Anything that helps a woman and gives her knowledge is a good thing in my books.

    Rape will always be the fault of the rapist and no one else.

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    Thanks @Atropos, I have my reservations about this and couldn't quite articulate them. I agree with all of your points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastychicken View Post
    I think it is a bit stupid. It does not pretect against all drugs firstly so it will give a false sense of security to naive women and men who think a simple finger dip in a drink will protect them from being drugged. If someone wants to rape someone a little nail polish is not going to stop them.

    Lets use the nail polish as the same example as a condom. Oh we can have sex, I have a condom. Hep A, herpes and an accute case of crabs later....
    I am strongly against the opinion that 'naive' people would have a false sense of security!
    One night I went out, had bought my first can and watched the bartender open it. I had not put it down. I was sitting at a table with 3 people that I knew and trusted, away from the crowd. I was a very cautious person when it came to my drink, not even leaving it with a friend if I had to go to the toilet (working in a bar will do that to you)... I had a false sense of security, because, from halfway through my can, I have a few blurry memories up until 3 days later when I got sent home from work because I was still too hazy to adequately do my job.

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