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    I have a friend, who had an inhome carer who wasn't vaccinated and they only found out when she got whooping cough and spread it to her kids!

    I think that should be illegal - if you work in a care profession you should legally have to be vaccinated. As it is currently - even nurses and doctors can get exemptions. That is not ok!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tamtam View Post
    Legally no. I asked when enrolling my daughter. And some places sort of indicated and others out rightly would tell me they wouldn't tell me!
    I found it so frustrating as it was so vital for my daughter. We did some in home care to start with for her. At 16 months she went into daycare a few days a week. .. And was behind with her needles.

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    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.

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    I'm with @Delirum on this, I used to be pro-vax and each to their own. But now, after watching what is going on in the rest of the world (western countries - so no..we can't blame it on sanitation) I've changed my mind.

    What gives parents the right to put their kids in danger like that? If it were anything else, smoking in front of kids, giving kids alcohol - it is illegal. But if you choose to not vax and your child gets sick/permanently injured or dies -then there is no legal repercussions.

    It is just not good enough anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    I'm sure the child who was left permanently and severely brain damaged because his parents refused to vaccinate him would be so pleased to hear there are antibiotics available. But he won't need it, because now his parents have him and his siblings fully vaxxed, they realise they made the biggest mistake of all their lives and now he and they will have to suffer for the rest of their lives because of it.

    Unless there is a medical reason, there is no excuses for not vaccinating. If you believe that is the case, your critical thinking skills need to be re-evaluated. This isn't a "I feel" debate, there is hard science, and there is quackery. This isn't a "two-sided" story, this isn't a balanced debate. It is literally there is the right side - and the wrong side and science proves it everyday.

    And yes - people still die from vaccine preventable illnesses, even in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    Well for a start, measles is a VIRUS!! Therefore cannot be treated by antibiotics.
    Please get your facts straight.

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    There is no way someone who is anti-vaxx is going to come in here and try to defend themselves and their choices!

    The responses in here have been enough to make me - who has five fully immunised children - feel a little uncomfortable.

    And for what it's worth I believe if you're going to ban non-vaxxed children from schools/kinder/daycare then that should also extend to those who are unable to be vaxxed for medical purposes. They would still pose a risk to those too young to be immunised and to each other ... You can't ban one group and not the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.
    Would you be worried if your child contracted Measles? I sure as hell would be and I trust scientifically proven medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jade24 View Post
    There is no way someone who is anti-vaxx is going to come in here and try to defend themselves and their choices!

    The responses in here have been enough to make me - who has five fully immunised children - feel a little uncomfortable.

    And for what it's worth I believe if you're going to ban non-vaxxed children from schools/kinder/daycare then that should also extend to those who are unable to be vaxxed for medical purposes. They would still pose a risk to those too young to be immunised and to each other ... You can't ban one group and not the other.
    It's because of people that can't be vaccinated for medical reasons that vaccines should be compulsory for school, you know, so they can actually be safe in school.

    ETA the key word in your post is UNABLE. They don't have a choice unlike COers.
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    How can anyone defend something that is indefensible?

    And no, unvaccinated for medical reasons are such a tiny number, that the herd would be big enough to keep them safe as well. So they absolutely should not be excluded from daycare.

    I'm not saying I think unvaxxed people should be excluded from daycare, just that the excuses have run out. There is no reasonable excuses for not vaccinating expect in diagnosed medical instances.

    Quote Originally Posted by jade24 View Post
    There is no way someone who is anti-vaxx is going to come in here and try to defend themselves and their choices!

    The responses in here have been enough to make me - who has five fully immunised children - feel a little uncomfortable.

    And for what it's worth I believe if you're going to ban non-vaxxed children from schools/kinder/daycare then that should also extend to those who are unable to be vaxxed for medical purposes. They would still pose a risk to those too young to be immunised and to each other ... You can't ban one group and not the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loislane2010 View Post
    Did the children die? Did anyone die from it? Were the affected persons treated successfully with antibiotics/in the hospital for it???

    Id doesnt say anyone dies from it or even if they were seriously ill/required hospitalisation.

    I rest my case...we live in a world were medical treatments are available and most VPD are treated with antibiotics...usually just from a GP.

    Measles is a serious and highly contagious viral disease which causes fever, runny nose, cough and sore red eyes, followed by a rash. Measles can sometimes lead to dangerous complications such as pneumonia. About one person in 1,000 who contracts measles will develop inflammation of the brain. For every 10 children who become affected in this way, one will die and many will have permanent brain damage. Measles still causes deaths in Australia. A rare condition called SSPE can develop several years after a measles infection. SSPE rapidly destroys the brain and is always fatal.Measles can be caught through coughs and sneezes from an infected person before that person realises they are sick.

    http://www.health.vic.gov.au/immunis...sheets/mmr.htm

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