Legwarmer & Scruffy I agree I think anything over 5 should be counted... I'm so sorry for your chemical Scruffy but great you can get going asap rather than wAiting months. The times I've had a true BFN the hcg level at day 16 was under 2 & they were both fresh cycles & I would've had an ovidrel 6 click booster after transfer too... so Legwarmer wow you quite possibly had an implantation attempt with the pred & little drop of intralipids?! That's so exciting, everything crossed that Dr M's protocol gives you what you need?!!!