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    Sorry, I'd tell the person to toughen up, rug up and walk. In the scheme of things, zero is not that cold and 800m is not that far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvs View Post
    So, if you had your Ls and were reasonably competent at driving in, say, a country town with almost no traffic, and you lived 800 metres from your childcare, and it's been below zero degrees in the mornings during the walk to childcare... and you were exhausted and if you just drove it'd be ten minutes, whereas the walk there and back and drop off is closer to half an hour...

    would you risk it and drive? Why or why not? No judgements here, just wondering...

    (There is about a <1% chance of being caught)
    Two things worry me besides the obvious (putting a kids in danger and only being on your L's), they are;

    • reasonably confident
    • exhausted

    I wouldn't do it and I suggest you put yourself in the position of being hurt by a "reasonably confident and exhausted L plater doing the wrong thing" and answer your own question.


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    No way in hell would I do it.

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    No freaking way. Being exhausted should be a reason to not get behind the wheel of a car, not an excuse for doing it.
    There's a reason learner drivers aren't supposed to drive on their own.

    I'm also unsure how 800m can take 10 minutes in the car, or nearly a 30 minute walk. 800m is not far. I can run 800m in 3 - 3 1/2 minutes so either the distance is much further than 800m, or there's other reasons the drive/walk is so long and slows it down, which again, would be a good reason to not get behind the wheel of the car.

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    Nope, I wouldn't risk it.

    If I had a car and was regularly wanting to drive instead of walk then I'd do everything I could to get my P's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Party of Three View Post
    No freaking way. Being exhausted should be a reason to not get behind the wheel of a car, not an excuse for doing it.
    There's a reason learner drivers aren't supposed to drive on their own.

    I'm also unsure how 800m can take 10 minutes in the car, or nearly a 30 minute walk. 800m is not far. I can run 800m in 3 - 3 1/2 minutes so either the distance is much further than 800m, or there's other reasons the drive/walk is so long and slows it down, which again, would be a good reason to not get behind the wheel of the car.
    I read it as the return trip with drop-off takes that long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretched View Post
    I read it as the return trip with drop-off takes that long.
    Oh that makes far more sense!

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    Thanks for your answers. To clarify - what I meant was including the drop off time/sitting with my son when he arrives. So, for me to walk is roughly 8 minutes each way, plus about ten minutes drop off, which is close to half an hour. Compared to, if driving, about 30 seconds each way, and the ten minute drop off. The reason I brought up exhaustion is that by doing so, I would theoretically be able to sleep in a little more.


    So, to answer my own question, I definitely wouldn't do it, although I have been sorely tempted. To me -2 and lower IS that cold :-), especially when it's frosty and icy, and I worry about not being able to rug DS up enough when he is already constantly sick or sniffly. Where I live, I often see students being dropped off at school by their 14 year old siblings, or hear students talk about driving on their farms, so I think I am in the minority here.

    The reason I started this thread was because I was interested to reflect and realise that while I had some very strong reasons to NOT take the risk (being unable to live with myself if I hurt/killed my son or another person while driving unlicensed, the financial impact of being uninsured in case of an accident, the embarrassment and inconvenience of being caught, the fact that my driving instructor is also the local copper and would recognise me!), the simple reason that 'it is illegal' wasn't a deciding factor for me. So I was interested to see how much of a factor it would be for others. Thanks again for your responses :-)

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    As much as i want too say yes I would, no I don't think so. I am an experienced driver and it was just recently I was involved in an extremely close call. I am a very safe driver. I had driven the same road countless times and I was only 2 or so km from home when I lost control from no fault of my own and came so close to losing everything.

    A car is literally a tonne or more of metal, fuel and points of ignition and something I have learnt to respect. It takes just one other driver on the road to be an idiot or have something go dangerously wrong to turn your whole world upside down.

    It could also mean the difference between being insured and not being insured, or insurable in the future.

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    I would not.

    a) if something happened I would always blame myself
    b) if you have an accident - even if someone runs into you, or scrapes your car or something ... you are not insured
    c) If you are reasonably competent and experienced ... you will soon have your licence.

    its hard though. tempting when its cold

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