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    I am disgusted by this couple. Absolutely disgusted.
    And it makes me even more certain in my views of not supporting overseas or commercial surrogacy. Paying a woman (ESP a poor woman in a third world country) a pittance for putting her body and her whole way of life at risk, and now putting her at risk of being stuck with a sick child she doesn't want it the rest of her life, is just wrong.
    I understand some women on here have used OS surrogates, but that is how I feel about it. People who do it are essentially saying that their longing to have a child is more important than the well being of another adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2BlueBirds View Post
    What I don't get is-
    * the surrogate mother doesn't hold or have contact with the baby/babies after they are born. The nurses take over until the 'parents' arrive.
    Therefore how did the surrogate mother get the baby back, she should have been sent home and really it was none of concern anymore.
    The nurses would of had to give the baby to other authorities, like foster care, adoption.
    Doesn't make sense.
    That's why I think it was a very dodgy agency. I'm not saying the Aussie parents knew - they might have thought they were legit

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    Default IVF baby with Downs Syndrome left behind with Thai surrogate

    On one hand, I can see @VicPark's point of view. I don't think they're horrible people for paying her to be a surrogate but it is sad that women in these countries are so desperate for money that they will go to such lengths to get it. At the same time it's equally horrible that people who so desperately want a child and can't have one have to go to such lengths to get what other people can so easily have. :'(

    Given the high waiting lists for adoption in Australia, the least the Australian parents could have done was brought him back and put him up for adoption so that he could have a wonderful home here with loving parents.

    I also agree that there is absolutely not enough information to this story and it's highly likely the surrogacy agency was shady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4underfour View Post
    People who do it are essentially saying that their longing to have a child is more important than the well being of another adult.
    I also struggle with the idea that if they did long for a baby so desperately, why then refuse a baby with DS? If they so badly wanted a baby, why pick and choose? I wonder if there was only the option of the DS baby, and not the healthy girl, would they have taken him if he was their only choice, or did they just feel like they could pick and choose the healthy one and leave the DS baby behind? I just find it so selfish, the poor little bubba. Maybe it's a good thing he will probably never understand that his birth parents didn't want him for his disability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin Queen View Post
    On one hand, I can see @VicPark's point of view. I don't think they're horrible people for paying her to be a surrogate but it is sad that women in these countries are so desperate for money that they will go to such lengths to get it. At the same time it's equally horrible that people who so desperately want a child and can't have one have to go to such lengths to get what other people can so easily have. :'(

    Given the high waiting lists for adoption in Australia, the least the Australian parents could have done was brought him back and put him up for adoption so that he could have a wonderful home here with loving parents.

    I also agree that there is absolutely not enough information to this story and it's highly likely the surrogacy agency was shady.
    Well said

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    If a stranger said I want you to have my baby I would probably say no. If they offered me $100,000 I would probably do it. I consider it renting out my womb.

    I think in most cases it works for both parties. In this case one couple is wrecking if for everyone and making the whole system look bad.

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    Meredith sorry if my post offended you..

    I should clarify though that it's not the overseas factor that disturbs me. It's the financial mismatch of someone in relative wealth paying to use the body of someone in relative poverty. It increases the chances of a woman being pressured to put their body at risk when they really don't want to. Is not just a Thai thing... It could theoretically happen within Australia if the laws were different. Do I think Aussies go overseas with the aim to take advantage of the poor? No. That they probably have blinkers on because they are so excited about the possibility of having kids: perhaps. I'm sorry if this clarification offends too, however the fact that you can't pay a surrogate in Australia means that a large chunk of Australians agree with me on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Duck View Post

    Also, what about people that purchase sperm/eggs from overseas? Would you say they are taking advantage of people too? I'm aware this does happen
    If the donor is poor then yes I still see this as taking advantage although not as bad (as it can be pressuring people to do something they wouldn't otherwise do).

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    Such a sad and shocking story.
    I just read an updated version of the ninemsn article that now states Gammy was first identified as a boy, when in fact the baby is a little girl. I'm sure it's going to get weirder....
    http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...h&mchpost=pos1

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    It's like that story in the US where the girl who had been disfigured in a dog attack was asked to leave KFC as she was upsetting the other customers. KFC hasn't been able to find any trace of it happening (not sure if it's true or not), but the girls fundraising for medical care went through the roof, and a surgeon offered to help her.

    Personally I hope both stories are made up. I really hope people like this don't exist. Mums going to desperate measures for sick children is much better than mums abandoning sick children.

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