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    Surrogates in Thailand live as Australian surrogates do, with their familes at home.

    Thailand has just done an overhaul of their surrogacy laws that have placed all arrangements in jeopardy http://m.media.theage.com.au/news/wo...y-5640550.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by headoverfeet View Post
    Surrogates in Thailand live as Australian surrogates do, with their familes at home.

    Thailand has just done an overhaul of their surrogacy laws that have placed all arrangements in jeopardy http://m.media.theage.com.au/news/wo...y-5640550.html
    This is what I was scared of, now all families wanting to go down this path are affected. Heartbreaking if you were genuine & were about to go ahead with this & now it's postponed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headoverfeet View Post
    Surrogates in Thailand live as Australian surrogates do, with their familes at home.

    Thailand has just done an overhaul of their surrogacy laws that have placed all arrangements in jeopardy http://m.media.theage.com.au/news/wo...y-5640550.html
    Do you know if these crack downs are effective immediately? As in... Parents may never get their children born to surrogates who are pregnant at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky27 View Post
    This is what I was scared of, now all families wanting to go down this path are affected. Heartbreaking if you were genuine & were about to go ahead with this & now it's postponed.
    Its not just those wanting to go down this path but those that are already expecting babies with surrogates :/

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    I know of a gay couple trying to get their babies home born to a Thai surrogate.
    They are in Thailand at the moment. So much paperwork to fill out and now DNA tests.
    I hope then get their babies home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish30 View Post
    I'm not that quick to judge. I never been in the position to be unable to have children of my own, and tried all avenues to the point I need to get a completely stranger in a foreign country to have a baby for me. I just heard this week about a friend who found out she can't conceive naturally and only have a very slim chance to get pregnant via IVF. I think that this could easily be someone like my friend, who always dreamed of being a mum.

    I understand where you are coming from, but life isn't really as black and white as you are painting. Perhaps the couple really believed that they were making a difference in someone's life by paying all that money. We don't know
    I get what you're saying but having your own dreams smashed is no excuse to take advantage of another's poverty like that. IMO it's nearly on par with paying poor people for their kidneys, or paying an impoverished woman for sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I get what you're saying but having your own dreams smashed is no excuse to take advantage of another's poverty like that. IMO it's nearly on par with paying poor people for their kidneys, or paying an impoverished woman for sex.
    (Read this in a discussing tone, not an arguing tone).

    If for arguments sake it is taking advantage of them - could it be an education issue? Not knowing the real circumstances and why the potential surrogates would be willing to do it? Until today I had never thought of it (we are lucky in that we can convince and carry). I just can't see a greedy couple doing this on purpose (overseas surrogacy) to take advantage of someone.

    Also, what about people that purchase sperm/eggs from overseas? Would you say they are taking advantage of people too? I'm aware this does happen

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    What I don't get is-
    * the surrogate mother doesn't hold or have contact with the baby/babies after they are born. The nurses take over until the 'parents' arrive.
    Therefore how did the surrogate mother get the baby back, she should have been sent home and really it was none of concern anymore.
    The nurses would of had to give the baby to other authorities, like foster care, adoption.
    Doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2BlueBirds View Post
    What I don't get is-
    * the surrogate mother doesn't hold or have contact with the baby/babies after they are born. The nurses take over until the 'parents' arrive.
    Therefore how did the surrogate mother get the baby back, she should have been sent home and really it was none of concern anymore.
    The nurses would of had to give the baby to other authorities, like foster care, adoption.
    Doesn't make sense.
    It's hard to know. But to me it sounded like she just had the babies at a hospital in Thailand and then an agent from the Surrogacy Agency came and took the healthy girl leaving the surrogate with Gammy.


 

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