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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Duck View Post
    Could you imagine if this was true and you find out via a news story? How horrible. I do think there is more to the story
    Apparently because of things like this the Thai government has changed policy and you have to be a married couple unable to have children of your own and prove that it was altruistic surrogacy and you didn't pay the surrogate. I think it was also mentioned that the surrogate must be a blood relative of one of the parents... Not sure how true this is.

    But something needs to be done to stop parents exploiting poor Thai women into carrying their children and then abandoning their responsibilities because the child was not "good enough" for them. Disgusting.

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    I would say they transfered 2 embies, pretty standard overseas practise. Unfortunately these are the risks you take being a surrogate (alturistic or commercial) I hope she can get the financial support she and the baby needs

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    This story is generating a LOT of interest from Thailand to the UK. Already the surrogate has generated the donations she needs for his heart surgery. Or so the donate to Gammy site says... It's hard to know if she'll actually get the money or not considering it's not known if she set the fundraiser up herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CitrusRain View Post
    Let's hope it really does get to Gammy and he gets his surgery. Poor little darling. I just want to pick him up and take him home!
    gofundme.com/bxci90 <- The link to the site. I literally just clicked refresh after about 3 minutes and it had jumped over $1,200. I'm sure that the GoFundMe website can make sure that the money is distributed to his family and goes towards looking after him and his operation.

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    I think we don't know the whole story. What if the agency didn't tell the parents that there was a Down syndrome baby? What if they were told it was terminated?

    From the news report it was clear that the surrogate mother was someone in financial distress and didn't know much about the process involved.

    And the way the news was told as well, as someone pointed out, one egg and 2 children of different sex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfish30 View Post
    I think we don't know the whole story. What if the agency didn't tell the parents that there was a Down syndrome baby? What if they were told it was terminated?

    From the news report it was clear that the surrogate mother was someone in financial distress and didn't know much about the process involved.

    And the way the news was told as well, as someone pointed out, one egg and 2 children of different sex?
    They took advantage of a poor woman. They traveled to a poverty stricken country with the aim of paying to use a poor woman's body for their own purposes. This is leading me to err on the side of guilty even though the specific details are unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    They took advantage of a poor woman. They traveled to a poverty stricken country with the aim of paying to use a poor woman's body for their own purposes. This is leading me to err on the side of guilty even though the specific details are unknown.
    I tend to agree with this. At the moment the information we have is the surrogate didn't know the process very well. She thought she might have to have sec with another man! So it could just be she didn't know that they put two embryos back.

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    Sounds like a poor woman in Thailand was taken for a ride either by the agency or the biological parents or both. By the sounds of the news article today the Thai woman was in financial distress and desperate for money so did the surrogacy to help get out of debt. It also sounds like she was not really informed of the procedures/her rights/the baby's rights etc before taking it on. Not really all that surprised tbh.

    I feel really funny about overseas surrogacy in poor countries. I think many poor women are taken advantage of and most of them are probably uneducated so do not understand everything that is taking place. This is a good example of when the law does not keep up with science and people are not protected

    Poor baby. I just feel so sad for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    They took advantage of a poor woman. They traveled to a poverty stricken country with the aim of paying to use a poor woman's body for their own purposes. This is leading me to err on the side of guilty even though the specific details are unknown.
    An alternative could be that the agency told the woman one story and the couples different one, for instance

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    Or maybe the couple thought that they were helping someone financially who already had children of her own and really needed it.

    Do we know whether the couple met this woman? Even if they did, would they be able to communicate? What if the agency told the couple the woman fully understood the procedure? What if they agency told them the woman had done it before?

    We don't know any of these things for a fact. I don't know, maybe I'm just too naive but I can't believe a mother would leave a biological child in a foreign country like that

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