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    Quote Originally Posted by [Mod] Degrassi View Post
    The couple are denying their surrogate daughter has a twin brother.

    I really hope the truth comes out soon. So much conflicting information.
    DNA testing will sort that one right out. It sounds like the theory of "shady surrogacy agency lies" may prove true...

    Surely nobody would abandon their baby overseas because it has Down Syndrome and think it wouldn't come to light in some way?

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    So terminating a healthy baby because it has an extra chromosome is ok?

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    Yes it is. Abortion is not illegal.

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    But if we are discussing the morality of the biological parents, as most if these arguments seem to be based on, then surely it raises the issue of how our society values (or not) people born with prenatally diagnosable disabilities. And in that case, the ridiculously high termination rates following prenatal 'abnormality' diagnosis comes into play.

    I don't see how people who would most likely have terminated a pregnancy following a positive DS diagnosis can so vocally and vehemently condemn the biological parents of Gammy

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    Quote Originally Posted by finallyready View Post
    But if we are discussing the morality of the biological parents, as most if these arguments seem to be based on, then surely it raises the issue of how our society values (or not) people born with prenatally diagnosable disabilities. And in that case, the ridiculously high termination rates following prenatal 'abnormality' diagnosis comes into play.

    I don't see how people who would most likely have terminated a pregnancy following a positive DS diagnosis can so vocally and vehemently condemn the biological parents of Gammy
    There is a huge difference between terminating a pregnancy and abandoning a child who has been born. Regardless of whether or not either or both are morally reprehensible, you can't equate the two because you're not comparing apples to apples. They're two entirely different situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin Queen View Post
    There is a huge difference between terminating a pregnancy and abandoning a child who has been born. Regardless of whether or not either or both are morally reprehensible, you can't equate the two because you're not comparing apples to apples. They're two entirely different situations.
    I have to agree with GQ here. Termination and abandonment are on a whole different level.

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    But we are comparing situations that are similar. The value of people with disabilities and arguments surrounding them is applicable regardless of whether they are born or terminated. A parent who chooses to terminate their pregnancy because of DS has, in effect, turned their bak on their child in the same way that Gammy has been.

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    The situations are completely different to me.

    If what reports are saying are true, the parents have chosen to leave their baby with someone who was not related to them, who lives in a developing country (in poverty if reports are to be believed) who would have no way of paying for the life saving surgery the baby needs.

    I hear what you are saying that it highlights how people with disabilities are valued or not in our society, but abandoning a living baby, and in such a way to hide the fact he existed (After all, they could have brought him back to Australia to be adopted) is completely different.

    Their actions have significant ramifications for people who have no responsibility for this baby.

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    I have some interesting information. I spoke to someone who is directly related to a gay couple waiting to bring their babies home from Thailand.

    Apparently news is starting to emerge that the Australian couple only had one baby (not twins) and that Gammy is not their child. I am not sure exactly whose baby it is.
    Channel 9 and ABC radio might be on to it, but I haven't found any direct web links yet.
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