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    Absolutely uncalled for. I would be marching into the principal's office and getting my mama bear on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastychicken View Post
    I never had music fall in class times when i was at school. I had band 4 out of 5 lunch times, 2 early mornings and 5 afternoons until 5 then once a week i would have naval band in the evenings and once a week i had brass band in the evenings. Exams and performances were always night time affairs and usually once every few weeks. Music eats up a lot of time if you do it and being in a band outside school hours is more full on then sport. i think the early morning is totally justifiable and the commitment to improvement.

    If a sports coach wanted an extra mornings training session to improve the team, how is this any different?

    Singling out a child and causing humiliation is something that does need to be addressed though.
    It is not that kind of class. It is a subject (think op) not a band.
    On that subject line was art/health science/manual arts or music. It was a chosen because he already chosen one of those subjects on another line and is not suited to the other 2.

    He is not part of a school band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin Queen View Post
    Absolutely uncalled for. I would be marching into the principal's office and getting my mama bear on!
    I agree! Thats just wrong, your poor ds

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    Id be asking for a meeting with the teacher & the principal so you can address your concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastychicken View Post
    I never had music fall in class times when i was at school. I had band 4 out of 5 lunch times, 2 early mornings and 5 afternoons until 5 then once a week i would have naval band in the evenings and once a week i had brass band in the evenings. Exams and performances were always night time affairs and usually once every few weeks. Music eats up a lot of time if you do it and being in a band outside school hours is more full on then sport. i think the early morning is totally justifiable and the commitment to improvement.

    If a sports coach wanted an extra mornings training session to improve the team, how is this any different?

    Singling out a child and causing humiliation is something that does need to be addressed though.
    But that's extracurricular as opposed to a specific subject though isn't it? While I can sort of understand some performances (within reason) surely most of the teaching should occur within class when it's an actual subject.

    OP I'd be pretty ropeable especially the treatment in front of the class. I'd also discuss with her (if you can) that it's not possible for him to attend the early morning class and then raise it with the principal if you don't get a satisfactory response. Although part of me would want to go straight to the principal and ask if that's standard to have early mornings and how that will work with your order children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastychicken View Post
    I never had music fall in class times when i was at school. I had band 4 out of 5 lunch times, 2 early mornings and 5 afternoons until 5 then once a week i would have naval band in the evenings and once a week i had brass band in the evenings. Exams and performances were always night time affairs and usually once every few weeks. Music eats up a lot of time if you do it and being in a band outside school hours is more full on then sport. i think the early morning is totally justifiable and the commitment to improvement.

    If a sports coach wanted an extra mornings training session to improve the team, how is this any different?

    Singling out a child and causing humiliation is something that does need to be addressed though.
    I think it's a bit different in this situation though tasty chicken as he is studying music as a subject. It's not as an extracurricular activity.

    I studied music throughout high school in years 9-11 plus then extension music as well in year 12. The only time we had to do anything out of hours was for our 2 performance nights for the extension music class as it was performance based. But we all knew that from the beginning. All other music performances/assessments were done in class time. We occasionally did stuff during our lunch times, but that was usually because we only had a few more performances left to go and the teacher and the students were all in agreeance to keep going. Given we all had lots of co-curricular activities (we had to do at least 1 a term as per the school rules) there was no way any of the teachers or students would have come in any earlier than expected for extra class work.

    OP I would be annoyed. I don't have kids and I'm not a teacher, but I would not expect to be treated that way. If she so desperately wants your son and the other kid to perform in front of an audience, why can't they do it in class time in front of the class? It would only take what, 15 minutes out of a lesson. I would not expect any teacher to treat a student that way, and if I was spoken to like that, or my child was I would be angry too. What I would do is let yourself calm down a bit and then objectively write all your points down. Then either email the principal or organise a meeting with the principal. I would probably ask for the teacher to be present too, so she can see how upset and angry you are at the way your boy has been treated. Plus it saves on Chinese whispers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallpotatoes View Post
    But that's extracurricular as opposed to a specific subject though isn't it? While I can sort of understand some performances (within reason) surely most of the teaching should occur within class when it's an actual subject.

    OP I'd be pretty ropeable especially the treatment in front of the class. I'd also discuss with her (if you can) that it's not possible for him to attend the early morning class and then raise it with the principal if you don't get a satisfactory response. Although part of me would want to go straight to the principal and ask if that's standard to have early mornings and how that will work with your order children.
    Most class music has a class band, which was actually what the early mornings were for. We would also fail music if not part of at least one school band. I was a specialist music student at a specialist music school and we were required as part of the program to be in at least 4 ensembles. We were marked and graded on attendance to the ensembles as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastychicken View Post
    Most class music has a class band, which was actually what the early mornings were for. We would also fail music if not part of at least one school band. I was a specialist music student at a specialist music school and we were required as part of the program to be in at least 4 ensembles. We were marked and graded on attendance to the ensembles as well.
    We never had a class band. I'm not sure if you can say that most music classes have a band. Sure I can understand if you were at a specialist music school, but most schools I wouldn't expect it of. I also wouldn't expect my kids to be forced into things that weren't of their choosing, and extra class work falls into that category!

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    I would react in exactly the same way. Very unprofessional and basically wrong behaviour from the teacher. Your poor ds
    On a totally different note.. Have you thought about resilience classes for your ds to help build his confidence and to learn some skills to help deal with bullying? I was just googling it a few minutes ago for my own children...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tastychicken View Post
    Most class music has a class band, which was actually what the early mornings were for. We would also fail music if not part of at least one school band. I was a specialist music student at a specialist music school and we were required as part of the program to be in at least 4 ensembles. We were marked and graded on attendance to the ensembles as well.
    Ahh okay our school was completely different. Class was class and if you did band you had practices/performances etc in lunch times, early mornings etc

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