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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootenanny View Post
    Out of interest what do parents get for $135 a day, I know the media have been talking up the idea that higher prices pay for gourmet meals, french classes, etc but is that a reality? Whilst I don't think rebates should be subsidising a 'premium service' who decides what those are worth and what is 'premium'!!

    For $135 we get an inner-city (Perth) location that is on my way to work (so more convenient than the burbs and means I don't have to arrive at work so late or leave as early in order to drop-off/pick-up DS), but definitely no gourmet meals and no French classes! We provide our own nappies, wipes, creams, etc, and it's open the standard 7:30am to 6pm. It is a nice centre (spacious and nice built environment) and has a great art studio area and playground, but I don't think they alone account for the difference between what we pay ($135/day) and the Productivity Commission's "deemed cost" ($75/day). I looked at a pretty dingy, cramped and not particularly inviting centre (definitely not "premium" ) in the burbs near our home and it was $90/day, so still pricier than the deemed cost.

    Off topic- I'd love to have DS learning a language at daycare! I'd consider paying extra for that if it were available (but would definitely not expect it to be government-subsidised).
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    $75 only barely covers rural CC costs. When my youngest was in CC (about 4 years ago now) full price was $68 from memory. I would think it's well over 70 now. It's unreasonable to expect metro mums who are paying $120+ a day to make up all that difference.

    It seems simple to me... rebate 50% of the cost for that centre. If I'm paying $75 here in the country, they pay $37.50, I pay the same. If a Melbourne mum is paying $120, she pays 60, the govt pays 60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    $75 only barely covers rural CC costs. When my youngest was in CC (about 4 years ago now) full price was $68 from memory. I would think it's well over 70 now. It's unreasonable to expect metro mums who are paying $120+ a day to make up all that difference.

    It seems simple to me... rebate 50% of the cost for that centre. If I'm paying $75 here in the country, they pay $37.50, I pay the same. If a Melbourne mum is paying $120, she pays 60, the govt pays 60.
    There's got to be a limit otherwise centres will raise their costs willy nilly knowing full well that the taxpayer will foot the bill.

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    I think it would make more sense to put a limit on centres as to what they can charge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    I think it would make more sense to put a limit on centres as to what they can charge!
    Yes. They should have a ceiling price based on rent/rates/costs. The problem with expecting centres to charge decent rates is demand. Why, especially in the city were demand is ferocious, charge $90 a day and make a tiny profit when you can charge $140 and know people will pay anything within reason bc they need the care?

    CC needs to be forced to charge reasonable fees. Otherwise, if the govt is only going to cover half of $75 (which is stupid) women are going to say what the hell am I working for making $50 a day? Might as well quit and get most of that in added FTB! And we want women working and paying tax right?

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    Unless the childcare facilities are Government owned and operated it is unrealistic (& idealistic) to place a limit on what they can charge. Squeezing the balls of private enterprise means reduced profit, inefficiencies and is the fastest way to ensure people invest their money elsewhere.

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    5% here also and most kids in my sons daycare are in 4-5 days a week and that's country nsw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Unless the childcare facilities are Government owned and operated it is unrealistic (& idealistic) to place a limit on what they can charge. Squeezing the balls of private enterprise means reduced profit, inefficiencies and is the fastest way to ensure people invest their money elsewhere.
    Yes, but squeezing the balls of families, especially women not on a high income is the fastest way for them to stop working and stop paying tax as well as an increase in govt funded FTB.

    A woman earning 150k a year can maybe afford to be paying heaps of CC, particularly under the new changes. But a woman on 40k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Yes, but squeezing the balls of families, especially women not on a high income is the fastest way for them to stop working and stop paying tax as well as an increase in govt funded FTB.

    A woman earning 150k a year can maybe afford to be paying heaps of CC, particularly under the new changes. But a woman on 40k?
    I agree with you but private enterprise isn't going to invest in childcare out of the kindness of their hearts. They have to be able to make a reasonable profit. Childcare is a business not a charity.

    - yes I will continue to whinge about the childcare fees I have to pay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Yes, but squeezing the balls of families, especially women not on a high income is the fastest way for them to stop working and stop paying tax as well as an increase in govt funded FTB.

    A woman earning 150k a year can maybe afford to be paying heaps of CC, particularly under the new changes. But a woman on 40k?
    We are being told that "the age if entitlement is over", so it's probably sensible to assume that there won't be FTB for many of the people likely to be affected by changes in the ccr, or at least it will be whittled away.


 

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