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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    haha fair enough!
    here VP

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    Ta. I'm on the borderline of maintaining the status quo/vs being screwed. If hubby gets a promotion I might have to dump him...

    What this report is forgetting:
    1) those with higher incomes often have higher expenses (and in talking mortgages and rates not overseas holidays).
    2) if you screw over middle income workers and make it non beneficial
    For them to work then you will end up with less tax $$$

    The table confuses me. According to the table I currently pay 50% of costs ... No.... For half a year I get 50% assistance.... According to the table If the changes go ahead I may be out of pocket 70%. What a crock I currently pay 75% so what the heck will it end up....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    no one seems to pay attention that the new proposed subsidy is not based on the fees we paid?

    isn't that a problem?

    so if you get a 60% subsidy and your centre charge $100 per day it doesn't mean that you will pay $40 per day.
    That's the way it currently works. With CCR anyway. $$ is capped it doesn't matter what your actual daycare fees are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    That's the way it currently works. With CCR anyway. $$ is capped it doesn't matter what your actual daycare fees are.
    No it is not. Let's take a daycare charging $120 per day.

    Current situation:
    at 2 days per week one receive $5,760 py
    at 3+ days per week one reach the cap and receive $7,500 py

    Proposed scheme, with a 60% subsidize, and 2 days per week, you'd receive $4,337 py so worse off by $1,400 per year...
    if 3 days per week you'd still be worse off by $1,000 per year.

    You'd be better off in this situation only if you child attend for 4 or 5 days.

    So no @VicPark the proposed scheme is not necessarily better.

    The current scheme is based of real fees paid by families. The proposed scheme will offer subsidy on the basis of a $75 cost per day. no cap.

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    @VicPark you are one of the lucky few to reach the CCR cap! Apparently only 5% of families do so that is why we are not represented in this report.

    The table I shared is very misleading. I too am supposedly only paying 51% of the childcare fees. But I'm paying 62%!!!
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    Default Removal of non-means tested CCR and other changes to CCB...

    It's all very confusing to me and if it gets through parliament I won't be working anymore. I currently work as a casual teacher and there is next to no occasional care available where I live which means I often have to say no to work. I've just placed my daughter in a centre 1 day a week and told the schools that I work for that I can definitely work that day each week. Doesn't mean I will get work but she will still go to care as I have to pay. So I would end up laying the full fee and not working. Just not worth it. Let's hope labor don't let the bill through if it gets to parliament.

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    Can someone explain the stepped and linear on that graph?? I'm so confused. I may or may not be sleep deprived.

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    @Bunny Lover the commission looked at 4 different options for the new subsidize. They think the first one (90-30 linear) is the best one so disregard the other columns
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExcuseMyFrench View Post
    @VicPark you are one of the lucky few to reach the CCR cap! Apparently only 5% of families do so that is why we are not represented in this report.
    I find that hard to believe.... ? Most families with kids in full time daycare would reach the $7,500 cap after 2/3 of the year... Unless you are talking about something different or parents that only work part time?

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    I'll start by saying I'm not currently affected by this yet as my ds is only 19 weeks old and we haven't even started considering childcare as yet but I know people that will be.

    My first question is, what about those families that have a child or children in childcare are working and then go to have another child. The mother may take 6 or 12 months maternity leave and need to keep her children in care to ensure they keep their places. For that 6 or 12 months is the mother deemed a sahm? Childcare places are so so hard to even get around here that keeping your children in care while on parental leave is a necessity.

    If this were to go through and these mothers are deemed to be sahm and lose their subsidizing they will be forced to take the child/ren out of childcare, lose their positions and therefore risk not being able to go back to work after maternity leave.

    Wouldn't this be detrimental to abbot's precious economy?

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    I fall into that 5% and would be worse off.

    As the current system stands, when I have baby number 2 later this year and with DS starting school and using OOSC, I will no longer be able to work full time. I wouldn't stand a chance under the proposal.

    I agree that it should be free.


 
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