Hi everyone. Thanks so much for your best wishes - you're a great support. It was as I suspected... I know that we're not supposed to use those hpt's but they have never really led me astray in the past so I was pretty sure I knew what the outcome was. I hope all of you heading over in the future have far better luck and I wish you all the best. Gosh it's hard regrouping though after a failure - I'd prepared for everything to go wrong prior to transfer - but I think subconsciously I thought once we got to transfer it would be ok, so that's probably part of the reason I struggled a bit. We probably will head back for a frozen cycle - but I just need to get an answer about the frozen having real potential after what happened with the fresh - or if we're better doing another cycle with a new donor (will ask treating doctors here and there) If so I think maybe January. I'll be following your journeys and as I said anyone going to Jozie that would like to ask questions please feel free. Best wishes to everyone.