It's a bit confusing, really. We're up in arms when people are asked to feed their baby in the toilet, understandably, and here's this lady that had been offered a quiet corner (as quiet as you can get at a festival) and she's complaining that they wouldn't give her access to the toilet.
The inside toilet was out of use.
Staff only areas are not somewhere the public are entitled to access.
They may not have had anywhere else.
They offered her a quiet corner.
On the other hand,
She didn't bother to call beforehand to find out if there was going to be somewhere that met her requirements.
She was attending a festival at a winery, not exactly the kind of place where you would expect a NICU-like expressing room or even a parent room.
How accommodating are you expecting them to be beyond being polite and not telling her that she can't express?
Be able to go out on a Friday night and have your own room to express in a night club between guzzling down drinks?
Where do you draw the line?
This isn't a shopping centre... it's a premise that makes and sells alcohol. It's a winery, I don't think a suitable breastfeeding area would have been in their plan when designing the place, nor do I think it should have been.
I find it surprising that so many people think the winery should be able to supply a 'clean, quiet, private room' on demand. Most businesses won't have a spare room just sitting there in case someone needs it, sure maybe in a dream world but not in reality.
How small does a business have to be before they are excused from this?? Before having DS I ran a small business and leased rooms/offices to work from....was I supposed to pay rent for another room in case someone wanted to pump or breastfeed?? Public would no way be allowed in offices or the staff room (confidential documents, staff's personal belongings) and other rooms would be in use with clients and meetings.
I've been breastfeeding almost a year and had to express at the start as DS was in neonates and I think this mother's reaction is totally unreasonable and does the pro-breastfeeding movement no favours!
Ridiculous!!!! Pump and dump in the toilet. She's just made a fool of herself! Just because you're breast feeding doesn't entitle you to special treatment! Toughen up lady, you knew you'd have to do that so You should have planned accordingly or not gone! First world problem or what?!
The only room in my office with a lockable door is our bathroom so as a small business we could not offer anything except that for breastfeeding or pumping mums, obviously if we had a small private room I would offer it but our office is all open plan so we would be in trouble if we legally had to provide a space
What an attention seeker. For the record, I support women bfing in public and do not condone discrimination for nursing mothers at all..... this was not discrimination. They didn't tell her she couldn't pump in public. They simply didn't have a private room she could use. Yes the staff were rude, but I've had staff at different businesses be rude to me without a drop of breast milk in sight She could of pumped in the bus (which would have been warm and empty). Granted portaloos are feral, but what was she expecting at a wine festival??
I also was amused she put up the pump and dump photo for thousands of people to see, yet all this ruckus was bc she demanded a private room.
There were several times when my first child was small that I needed to use a microwave to heat up her bottle while out. Lots of places either didn't have one, or refused to heat it for me. I didn't consider it discrimination, just annoying. So I quickly worked it out by buying a good quality bottle holder and heating the bottles warmer than they drank them so by 2 hours later they were still warm.
"out of service" sounds like the didn't want patrons to use it... but since she only needed a private space not a toilet to actually pee she could have used that space.
the winery has turned a small issue in a big mess and I believed it was their call to deal with this customer with respect and curtesy.
If they had done so, even without providing a private space, I'm sure we wouldn't be discussing the events today ...
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