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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmeleem View Post
    Im sorry but the issues you have with a german shephard you can expect the same from a border collie. They bite its their job to nip and bite. Ive been bitten by a GSD and i would still trust them before i would a BC
    I'm not worried about nips, all dogs have the capacity to nip. But I've never heard of a child being killed by a border collie, I'm sure it's happened but there would be many more cases where a GSD has killed a child. I'm not saying I think if I get a GSD it will kill one of my children I just don't feel comfortable with the fact the ability is there and the stats are there, you know what I mean.

    But when I write it down it does sound paranoid. I don't know!

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    I was just looking online, I think something like a Shetland sheepdog (aka as a sheltie, smaller version of a collie) sounds perfect for us. Does anyone have any experience with them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wobbleyhorse View Post
    What's a groodle?

    If your DP wants a big dog - what about a Great Dane? My bosses have had three lovely Great Danes - since his kids were small - they are lovely (although it's a nightmare to get them all in the car - 3 kids/ 2 adults/ 3 dogs - comical really!).

    I hope for your sake he doesn't bring a puppy home - puts you in an awkward position.

    Good luck with the decision!
    A little bit tooo big I think lol!!

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    @TeamCarts check out the Portuguese Water Dog they are an actual proven breed and have the coat attributes I suspect that you'd be looking for in an 'oodle' dog. Someone I know got a 'labradoodle' a few years ago, paid lots of money from a 'breeder' and no joke it looks just like a Golden Retriever and sheds coat everywhere.

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    I had someone contact us (rescue group) a bit ago regarding what dog would be suitable for them. They had all the same concerns as you.
    1. Retrievers - bred to bring back dead game so have a 'soft mouth'
    2. Hounds - despite peoples opinion hounds are actually very placid and gentle dogs with people and if trained and socialised, other animals.
    3. Pointers and Setters - bred for locating and 'pointing' out game for gunmen.

    All dogs need training, no matter the breed, you'll never get the perfect dog without putting alot of effort in. If you dont have time however for training/puppy maybe its best you search rescue groups that use foster carers as they are then well aware of if their dog/s would suit your home.

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    In my experience, small dogs are the ones most likely to bite. The only dogs I know personally who have bitten children (besides my darling Dachshund who bit my son when he was small because he was being truly awful!) are a maltease x Jack Russel and an small bitzer. I'd look into adopting a dog from a rescue organisation or the like, the dogs are temperament tested and as well as getting a new family member to love you are also saving a life

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    We got our puppy when DS was 3, she's now 11 months old and 45kg ( Italian mastiff) and is in love with DS - he sits on her, rides her like a pony and is generally toddler rough with her but as she grew up with him she thinks its normal! I really think the breed is not the problem but the temperament and how the dog is raised - I would never leave dog and kid unattended but DS and dog are best of friends and she is quite protective of him and follows him everywhere he goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbie View Post
    I'm not worried about nips, all dogs have the capacity to nip. But I've never heard of a child being killed by a border collie, I'm sure it's happened but there would be many more cases where a GSD has killed a child. I'm not saying I think if I get a GSD it will kill one of my children I just don't feel comfortable with the fact the ability is there and the stats are there, you know what I mean.

    But when I write it down it does sound paranoid. I don't know!
    There may be more media response to GSD's but that doesnt mean anything. How many stories have we seen lately about a 'pitbull' being aggressive and they show pictures of labradors etc.
    A dog is what you make it. Dogs, just like humans, arent born aggressive. Humans make aggressive dogs.
    And no certain breeds arent "natural born killers" (not directed at you; just hate when people say that crap)

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    I wouldn't be put off Border Collies, i have a border collie cross kelpie and she is honestly the most amazing dog I've ever met. She was scared of kids before i had kids and i was worried about her with them but I've never had a moment where she's been aggressive towards my kids. We live on a smallish house block and she doesn't get walked all the time due to time we do take her to the park to play ball to wear her out as often as possible though. She's quiet enough that you can take food from her mouth and she won't object. She's never ever bitten anyone, she used to nip me when we lived on the farm and I'd walk away from her on the run, but i was the only person that she ever did that too, she's never once bitten anyone else not even a nip.

    I'd never get a dog like a blue heeler with kids but I'd never hesitate in getting another border collie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmeleem View Post
    I had someone contact us (rescue group) a bit ago regarding what dog would be suitable for them. They had all the same concerns as you.
    1. Retrievers - bred to bring back dead game so have a 'soft mouth'
    2. Hounds - despite peoples opinion hounds are actually very placid and gentle dogs with people and if trained and socialised, other animals.
    3. Pointers and Setters - bred for locating and 'pointing' out game for gunmen.

    All dogs need training, no matter the breed, you'll never get the perfect dog without putting alot of effort in. If you dont have time however for training/puppy maybe its best you search rescue groups that use foster carers as they are then well aware of if their dog/s would suit your home.
    Thank you that was interesting. I will look further into those types of dogs.

    I just want to say without sounding too defensive hopefully haha, we definitely do have time for training a dog and believe that it's very important to do so. I have been a foster carer for dogs, everything from greyhounds to chihuahuas. I love all dogs and don't want to come across like I think GSDs are vicious and horrible, they are beautiful dogs. I just want to make the right choice for my young family


 

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