My Grandfather served in WWII and my Mum says that he was incredibly scarred by everything he witnessed and did.
That in turn seeped across to his wife, and down to his 6 children.
My cousin (Mums sisters daughter) is a psychologist, and is doing her phD on the effects of the war experience down through generations.
Another thing which horrified me was that after my Grandfather died of throat cancer, my Mother said that she wanted 'the war' put on his death certificare, as she said he went off as a lovely young man, cigarettes were introduced into all the men's rations, he came back very disturbed, addicted to cigarettes and was quite an abusive father, never had any psychological treatment, and died of cancer.
War is just so awful in so many ways. It acts like a virus, it contaminates many more people than the one who served.
Just like the survivors of the concentration camps, their families feel the repercussions of that down the generations.
That Tasmanian senator needs a massive education.
I am NOT comparing YOU to survivors of concentration camps. People who HAVE had that experience live with the fallout.
I am relating the reality of my mothers life with a war scarred Father. I do not know you, and I do not know your husband. If he is having a good time in the army, as someone who chooses to be there, then all power to him. Just because war HAS destroyed peoples lives is not an insult to anyone whose it hasn't.
Please think about your post. I have related truths that have deeply affected my family directly. Just because your family has not had the same experience does not make my families experience hurtful to you. In fact that is kinda like 'shutup because you are saying something nasty about something I like'??? Weird and totally lacking in any empathy.
I don't believe in conscription either, but totally support the need for defence force and all the people serving our country.
We should also remember the current serving members of the ADF. They are doing an amazing job and are still sacrificing so we can all benefit.
It would be nice to think we don't need a defence force, but that is not reality.
My grandfather went to world war 2 and was a POW for three years in CHangi. He was treated very badly and came back a shell of his former self. He was an abusive father and in turn my mother and her brothers and sisters have all had to suffer the devastating consequences of war and as a result myself, sister and cousins have all suffered the consequences . War does affect many people, not just the ones that have served their country and I for one do not support forced conscription. There are many that just couldn't cope.
All power to those that are currently serving in the army and navy though.
I don't think anyone is saying there is no need for defence forces, of course there are - until governments can stop acting in aggressive ways, then there will always be a need.
Conscription however, brings nothing but trouble. My grandfathers brother was in WWII - he was 18 years old and lasted 3 days. Of course we must respect what others gave up to keep the world "free" (to an extent) but it doesn't change the fact that the lasting psychological damage is insidious and doesn't just affect the person at war.
A family friend was conscripted to Vietnam and he still suffers PTSD, and panic disorders- he most likely will never be the same again because of it.
I agree with the general consensus on this thread, much kudos for all our troops. They do an amazing job!
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