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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Pretty ignorant comment, how embarrassing for you.
    Couldn't agree more

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    Soooo embarrassed ! Lol
    Everyone's allowed a opinion 😉
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    I've never done any drugs in my life. But I do know people on Newstart, who are top of their field academics who got made redundant after universities decided to cost cut, they are in their 50s and 60s and are women and are finding it very tough to get any job. I assure you, they aren't drug addicts. Pretty ignorant comment, how embarrassing for you.
    Then they wouldn't have a problem with drug testing if their not on drugs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Everyone's allowed a opinion ������
    Sure they are. I'm not offended you support the idea. But saying anyone against it are drug addicts? That's a bit much.

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    It isn't the point, have you read the other posts that explain why people are concerned about it?

    I don't do drugs, and I can tell you, I would feel targeted, embarrassed etc. if I had to have to do drug tests for FTA. I would absolutely have a problem with it.

    This implies that people on Newstart are drug addicts, I think that is very unfair. Also, what are they going to be doing with the information? Helping people beat addiction? Or cutting them off Newstart? I guarantee, if they did the latter, the crime rate would sky rocket - and then we would all suffer. How is that the best course of action?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Then they wouldn't have a problem with drug testing if their not on drugs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Soooo embarrassed ! Lol
    Everyone's allowed a opinion
    Some opinions are more valid than others, you made a call that we are all drug addicts, based on a few posts about people you have never met. Your opinion is baseless and invalid.

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    Maybe I should reword it .
    Anyone who is on a payment and refuse to do it are probably doing drugs why else would people refuse to get tested for their payment ?
    Centrelink offer help to people with addictions or you can get help through your employment agency .
    it would be a good opportunity for people to start getting help instead of receiving their payment and just wasting it on drugs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngaiz View Post
    I wasn't aware of this.

    I come from a VERY low socio economic region where there is a huge drug problem. BBC World once dubbed the town 'Cannabis Capital of the World' it has one of the highest rates of Meth users also. I am yet to hear of anyone losing their benefit when they fail a test.

    It would never work, the repercussions would be a greater burden on society.
    It's recent. I forget, are you living in NZ now? Or are you talking about where you used to live in NZ?

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    But people with serious addictions aren't usually on Newstart anyway - if you read my previous comments you would have seen that I thought more needed to be done to get people in to rehab.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Maybe I should reword it .
    Anyone who is on a payment and refuse to do it are probably doing drugs why else would people refuse to get tested for their payment ?
    Centrelink offer help to people with addictions or you can get help through your employment agency .
    it would be a good opportunity for people to start getting help instead of receiving their payment and just wasting it on drugs .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elle92 View Post
    Maybe I should reword it .
    Anyone who is on a payment and refuse to do it are probably doing drugs why else would people refuse to get tested for their payment ?
    Centrelink offer help to people with addictions or you can get help through your employment agency .
    it would be a good opportunity for people to start getting help instead of receiving their payment and just wasting it on drugs .
    I don't think anyone is saying they would refuse to be drug tested, more so that they object to drug testing for welfare recipients in general.

    I know for a fact that I'm clean, but come late next year when my youngest is 8 I will be on the dole and subjected to such a scheme if it were to be implemented. I work, study, and have a lot of specialists appointments to take DS2. My weeks are generally pretty hectic, so what do you propose? Cut back study, work, etc so I can go and be humiliated by having to pee in a container in front of someone to prove that I'm not on drugs??


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