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    DS is 14 weeks a d nearing the 4 month mark and getting anxious. Does every (most) baby go through the 4 month regression that I keep hearing about???

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    My oldest did, & didn't come good again til around 18 months!!!

    I'm keen to hear people's responses thou, my second is 13 weeks old, so we're fast approaching that time too. I'm praying he doesn't turn into a terrible sleeper too, I can't cope with another year of that again!

    Please tell me that some kids skip the sleep regression all together!!

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    Sorry, it happens to all babies if they don't know how to self settle before this time, but even,mist of those bubs go through it too.

    Look at a website called the baby sleep site dot com and look at their article on the regression for info in what happens, why it happens and how to get past it.

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    Only happened with my last DS who is 4 months my other 3 babies slept through from 6-8 weeks with out a problem usually 7pm till 7am with 10pm dream feed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    Sorry, it happens to all babies if they don't know how to self settle before this time, but even,mist of those bubs go through it too.

    Look at a website called the baby sleep site dot com and look at their article on the regression for info in what happens, why it happens and how to get past it.
    Where did you hear that? A sleep regression is a developmental phase where they keep waking because so much is going on inside so I don't see how knowing how to self settle would stop it, they'd still wake, you just maybe wouldn't have to help them back to sleep as often, but probably still will.

    I just find it interesting that you've quoted the sleep site because she's not into teaching them to self settle that young, thinks it's normal for a four month old baby (purely breastfed) to wake 2-3 times in the night to eat and doesn't believe in teaching to self settle while they are swaddled because they need their hands to self-sooth. She's not really into any type of sleep training until after four months.

    Sorry, not arguing with you, just curious where you heard it won't happen if you sleep trained before the regression.

    DS seemed to have hit it, he had an awful week around 16 weeks and a couple weeks of kind of awful. But the past week he's been back to only waking twice to eat so seems to be back on track.

    ETA: I've decided I've got beef with most of the sleep training books and their authors as they never, or rarely, address sleep regressions and developmental phases. They must make so many moms feel like cr*p!
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    Same happened to my DS he woke up to 15 times a night during this phase it lasted roughly 2-3 weeks although his always been a bad sleeper this was something else entirely anyway it seems to have passed and he only wakes his usual 4-5 times a night now. He will be 5 months in 6 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyGolightly81 View Post
    Where did you hear that? A sleep regression is a developmental phase where they keep waking because so much is going on inside so I don't see how knowing how to self settle would stop it, they'd still wake, you just maybe wouldn't have to help them back to sleep as often, but probably still will.

    I just find it interesting that you've quoted the sleep site because she's not into teaching them to self settle that young, thinks it's normal for a four month old baby (purely breastfed) to wake 2-3 times in the night to eat and doesn't believe in teaching to self settle while they are swaddled because they need their hands to self-sooth. She's not really into any type of sleep training until after four months.

    Sorry, not arguing with you, just curious where you heard it won't happen if you sleep trained before the regression.

    DS seemed to have hit it, he had an awful week around 16 weeks and a couple weeks of kind of awful. But the past week he's been back to only waking twice to eat so seems to be back on track.

    ETA: I've decided I've got beef with most of the sleep training books and their authors as they never, or rarely, address sleep regressions and developmental phases. They must make so many moms feel like cr*p!

    sorry, I didn't explain properly. I know she doesn't advocate self settling that young, but what she does say is that prior to 4 months baby sleep cycles are where babies go into a deep sleep really quickly and stay that way a long time.

    At 4 months babies sleep cycles permanently change, so their sleep patterns are like an adult's. Their sleep cycles are 40 minutes (which is why babies can catnap for 40 minutes).

    I mentioned self settling as some bubs learn to self settle prior to4 months naturally without being trained (I know - lucky parents, right!?) and if they do the regression doesn't hit as bad as when they wake after 40 minutes, they wake where they fell asleep so they don't cry for their care giver as often, unless of course they are hungry or uncomfortable in some way.

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    Both of mine went through it.

    For my two, it went from 5 months to 11 months :-/
    My older one would wake once a night with out fail, where as my younger one sleeps through for maybe a week, week and a half, then regresses back. He self settles during the day, just not at night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    sorry, I didn't explain properly. I know she doesn't advocate self settling that young, but what she does say is that prior to 4 months baby sleep cycles are where babies go into a deep sleep really quickly and stay that way a long time.

    At 4 months babies sleep cycles permanently change, so their sleep patterns are like an adult's. Their sleep cycles are 40 minutes (which is why babies can catnap for 40 minutes).

    I mentioned self settling as some bubs learn to self settle prior to4 months naturally without being trained (I know - lucky parents, right!?) and if they do the regression doesn't hit as bad as when they wake after 40 minutes, they wake where they fell asleep so they don't cry for their care giver as often, unless of course they are hungry or uncomfortable in some way.
    Looks like we've both read her site 'cover to cover!'

    I really like her, and others whose advice is similar. I actually used to be a night nanny and was a nanny for 12 years and thought most of the books and advice were great. Now after having my baby, although I think some are great as a point of reference for certain things (use them as a general idea or guide for sleep times) I think a lot of it is cr*p and feel bad about how they must make a lot of moms feel like failures because their babies aren't fitting into a particular mold.

    Eta: I feel bad that I ever recommend that a mom just pat their baby, that it will always work. Pfffft. DS just wakes more and smiles when you try to pat him. I know it does work, but not always, and definitely easier for the nanny to do it than the mom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolakitty View Post
    Both of mine went through it.

    For my two, it went from 5 months to 11 months :-/
    My older one would wake once a night with out fail, where as my younger one sleeps through for maybe a week, week and a half, then regresses back. He self settles during the day, just not at night.


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    There's also an 8 month regression which they say is worse, so you probably hit that as well!


 

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