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    No one likes to think of people cheating the system. There will always be people that do bad things like that, I just don't think it is far to come down harshly on all the people doing the right thing. I also think is is awful to assume that all people on newstart are bludgers.

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    I know there are people on welfare who are lazy and don't want to work, but seriously, welfare is still pittance compared to what a majority jobs can pay.

    I say good luck to any lounge about who wants to be on welfare, its not going to be a very nice life for them - just ask anyone who is in welfare but wants to work.

    Given this is the case (there is a percentage of lazy people on welfare - but I'm betting its pretty tiny) means there's even more reason to means test pensioners for these discounts etc. (with the exception of war veterans and their widdows.) instead of just taking away so many benefits for low income earners on the assumption they're all lazy.

    And no, not having enough money to afford the bare necessities and getting help from the government isn't a reward.

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    Apparently labor are going to allow changed to ftb to pass?

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    Also, I don't mean to be rude, but could you please type words out correctly? It's difficult to read when you abbreviate so much and is in fact against the rules here.
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    Personally I am sick of the old 'lazy public servants' narrative. And the 'lazy dole bludger' narrative.

    They are both bull. There is always going to be a small amount of people milking the system. Always. But tarring everyone with the same brush is insulting and stupid.

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    There are lazy workers and wasteful practices in all workplaces, public and private. I work in the public sector, DP private. Both of us work with a mix of highly motivated, passionate people and lazy so-and-so's. Interesting that no-one ever whines about lazy engineers and designers being a drain on the system- despite the fact that he does loads of work for governments. So you know, some of your tax payer's money goes into his company's coffers.
    We get excited if the biscuit tin is full- his office has a fully stocked bar fridge, a choice of half a dozen fancy muesli mixes and trays of pastries and fruit every morning, and pizza on Friday evening. Yup, public service waste is just disgraceful

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    "The main Appropriation Bills will be debated in the House of Representatives this week, and leader of government business Christopher Pyne signalled the government would use the debate ''to range widely over the financial challenges left to this government by the Labor Party''.

    A vote is expected in the sitting week beginning June 16."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Apparently labor are going to allow changed to ftb to pass?

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    Personally I don't find the idea of keeping FTB payments at the same rate for next two years too problematic... it does save a lot of money and probably won't be much of a change "in the pocket" for those in receipt of the payment. I think when FTB is indexed it only rises a few dollars. It's the halting of FTB part B once a child turns 6 that seems wrong to me, and that hasn't been mentioned in the news story above...

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