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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    Oh no peppa. Poor pepper is a victim of the budget too.

    http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-0...t-cuts/5484212
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    Just personally, I think Peppa is safe....

    It it makes me so angry though, the cuts to the ABC..... Abbott just has such a personal agenda and will do everything he can to diminish whatever he sees as left wing, and push his own very conservative agenda.

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    Okay, here is a bit about how the new changes will affect everyone that has a HECs debt-including past students. Yes - it will affect people who have graduated and still have a debt.

    http://blogs.abc.net.au/nsw/2014/05/...gram=702_drive

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    How is this for hypocritical - Joe Hockey protesting against Uni fee hikes in 1987!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...#ixzz32zfXK96i


    Would be hilarious if it wasn't so awful.

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    lol Beebs I was just coming in to post that article. Joe Hockey fighting for FREE university education. Now he is happily bringing in huge hikes to not only the cost, but the interest paid on them and the income to pay it back.

    What a complete hypocrite!

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    God knows I'm far from seeing eye to eye with JH but I think he's allowed to have changed his opinions.

    Especially in a moving economy like today. If he was to change his ideas back to free university for all we would probably all applaud him - not call him a hypocrite.

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    Yeah he is a tool but my political views are not the same as they were at uni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    Yeah he is a tool but my political views are not the same as they were at uni.
    Me too. Only I am way more left, and he is obviously way more right.

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    Yes I think many people change their political views over time, when those views no longer apply to them personally...

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    This, this 100%. My political views if anything have gotten more left with time. But my views are never about me, or what affect me. It is about how to achieve the best society we can. Hockey fighting for free education whilst at uni getting a free education only to turn around and be the way he is today is nothing more than pure selfish and self absorbed, nothing more.

    I am not saying that anyone who changes their views are selfish and self involved, not at all. But every now and then you hear a story and it just makes you go "wha??" Like the previous single mum on a pension calling for the axing of single parents pension, things like that that just seem really strange. That is what this is like for me.


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    Yes I think many people change their political views over time, when those views no longer apply to them personally...

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    I'd quite like to have a conversation with him along the lines of "were you wrong then or are you wrong now?".

    Of course people are allowed to change their opinions as they grow and develop but I would wager a shed load of money (if I had a shed load of money) that:
    - a large part of his motivation to protest as a student was because it was an ALP government who was in power at the time, it had little to do with the fees
    - he had a sense of entitlement at the time to be given a free tertiary education - the same sense of entitlement that his party is so heavily critical of now
    - he has lost any empathy for the youth who wish to progress tertiary education
    - it is a huge leap to one day actively support free education to then move to supporting a system where education will cost thousands and students will spend years and years paying off fees.
    - there is hypocrisy within the LNP when they criticise students for protesting yet partook in protests when they were students.
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