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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Lets not forget, that when you re enter the work force your CCR/CCB drops, I am going back to work in two weeks and our childcare will double from what it is now. That is all very well, but if you factor in travel expenses, childcare etc. We are going to be very slightly better off. I am ok with that, I am eager to re-enter the workforce, but I can completely understand why some people wouldn't in that situation.
    When my mat leave is up I want to work full time. However even though hubby and I are on decent wages we can't afford to have 2 kids in full time daycare (when CCR runs out 2/3 way through year we will be paying over $2,000 fortnight). So we're looking at working perhaps 4 days each (still to be decided).

    I whinge but it's not a "I'm not getting enough from the Government" whinge as I feel lucky to get $7,500 CCR per kid. It's more a whinge where no-one is at the receiving end if that makes sense. I don't know what a solution would be ... Can't cut the costs as childcare workers are already paid way too little. Can't increase the benefits either, (not when everything else bar silly chaplain programs are being cut as well).

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    Just read an announcement from my uni that those that that started their degrees this year won't be affected by any price increase till even if new budget comes in place in 2016. They are going to absorb the costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    Of course I would do and have done in the past what I need to do to keep food in my kids mouths and a roof over their heads. While we can juggle things so we can afford for one of us to stay home we will.
    It is very important to us to have one parent home. That's why we sacrifice things other don't or won't. Getting or not getting Benefits will never define my values.
    When my kids are grown I won't be getting any benefits from the government. I don't get any special benefits that others don't.
    I just budget my *** off to work with what we do get.

    Being a stay at home mum is not going to change the fact that my adult child could be in situation you quoted. Let's face if I did have a job it would be a low paying job as I am not qualified and I haven't worked in 18 years. So most of my pay would go into childcare. So not only could I still not help money wise but I couldn't just jump on a plane and help her when she needs it (yes I have done 3 times in the last year when she was incredibly sick)

    We would be worse off atm if I had a job.





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    Off topic but this is how I feel with my kids. I think the older they get the more guidance and yes help they need. My grandparents used to do alot to help their 4 children raise their families. I want to be that kind of grandparent.

    I really think I need to be eorking for myself. I need a flexible job that I can do from anywhere.

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    I know what you mean, I just feel at the moment though, it isn't as flexible as it needs to be if they are going to encourage women back to work, especially those on a low income. Also, every family is different, while it may seem that shift work works well - it just doesn't. DHs roster changes every week a mix of mornings and evenings, sometimes he gets one day offand then works 6, so I can't take his work into consideration at all when it comes to kids drop off, pick up and looking after them when I work. Things like that.

    I'm not sure what the answer is either but I know, again in Nordic countries, they have free childcare until school. I know they pay more taxes, but to be honest, I think higher taxes when you get completely free childcare, health, education, eyecare etc is not a bad thing. Well it seems to be working for them anyway! I imagine a lot of women would be jumping to get back to work if childcare wasn't an issue.

    I like that Westpac have an onsite creche, I think that is a great idea and shows them to be a family friendly employer - which is great.

    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    When my mat leave is up I want to work full time. However even though hubby and I are on decent wages we can't afford to have 2 kids in full time daycare (when CCR runs out 2/3 way through year we will be paying over $2,000 fortnight). So we're looking at working perhaps 4 days each (still to be decided).

    I whinge but it's not a "I'm not getting enough from the Government" whinge as I feel lucky to get $7,500 CCR per kid. It's more a whinge where no-one is at the receiving end if that makes sense. I don't know what a solution would be ... Can't cut the costs as childcare workers are already paid way too little. Can't increase the benefits either, (not when everything else bar silly chaplain programs are being cut as well).

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    While I agree with you on most things @beebs I don't believe that most people on BH who don't currently work would be rushing back to work if childcare is free. So many people on here choose not to work as they value staying home with their kids more. That's their choice and that's great, but people who feel that way aren't going to go to work just because childcare is free, are they?

    Which is why I often point out that in Nordic countries, SAHP's are waaaay less common than here. People work and pay their high taxes which in turn pays for the free childcare. It also pays to support those who cannot work for a multitude of reasons.

    The system doesn't work if people choose not to work who can, but just prefer to stay home with their kids while they are young.

    This isn't about working vs staying home. It just me (again) highlighting why holding up Scandanavia as the ideal is flawed as culturally we are so different in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    While I agree with you on most things @beebs I don't believe that most people on BH who don't currently work would be rushing back to work if childcare is free. So many people on here choose not to work as they value staying home with their kids more. That's their choice and that's great, but people who feel that way aren't going to go to work just because childcare is free, are they?

    Which is why I often point out that in Nordic countries, SAHP's are waaaay less common than here. People work and pay their high taxes which in turn pays for the free childcare. It also pays to support those who cannot work for a multitude of reasons.

    The system doesn't work if people choose not to work who can, but just prefer to stay home with their kids while they are young.

    This isn't about working vs staying home. It just me (again) highlighting why holding up Scandanavia as the ideal is flawed as culturally we are so different in that regard.
    You are right. Even if CC was free I wouldn't work FT. Actually I'd work less than my 25/hrs a week. I only work the additional day and a weekend to pay for CC.

    In a perfect world I would work 3x 5 hr shifts a week. That way I could still be the mother/carer/wife/daughter/granddaughter/friend I want to be.

    wifey of hubby who is always away. mother of two girls who are always amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Lets not forget, that when you re enter the work force your CCR/CCB drops, I am going back to work in two weeks and our childcare will double from what it is now. That is all very well, but if you factor in travel expenses, childcare etc. We are going to be very slightly better off. I am ok with that, I am eager to re-enter the workforce, but I can completely understand why some people wouldn't in that situation.
    The one thing I notice that most mothers fail to take into account when they re enter the workforce is that you are earning superannuation again. So yes you may only be slightly better off in the short term but you need to think about the possibility of career prospects which would increase your future salary and the fact you are once again earning money towards your retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    While I agree with you on most things @beebs I don't believe that most people on BH who don't currently work would be rushing back to work if childcare is free. So many people on here choose not to work as they value staying home with their kids more. That's their choice and that's great, but people who feel that way aren't going to go to work just because childcare is free, are they?

    Which is why I often point out that in Nordic countries, SAHP's are waaaay less common than here. People work and pay their high taxes which in turn pays for the free childcare. It also pays to support those who cannot work for a multitude of reasons.

    The system doesn't work if people choose not to work who can, but just prefer to stay home with their kids while they are young.

    This isn't about working vs staying home. It just me (again) highlighting why holding up Scandanavia as the ideal is flawed as culturally we are so different in that regard.
    I get what you are saying however I think it's a bit of both (some wouldn't go back if childcare was free and some would). I mean I'm a real life example of someone who, after 12 months mat leave, would work full time (instead of part time) if childcare was cheaper.

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    Yeah but VP don't you already do four days? I do too, and would also work five if it was free.

    But women who feel that working outside the home is not the best thing for them, their child or their family are not going to work because it's free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldencrumble View Post
    The one thing I notice that most mothers fail to take into account when they re enter the workforce is that you are earning superannuation again. So yes you may only be slightly better off in the short term but you need to think about the possibility of career prospects which would increase your future salary and the fact you are once again earning money towards your retirement.
    And also that CC costs is not solely supported by their salary. Only half of it. The other half is supported by the other parent.

    Salary is for the vast majority of us the biggest asset will ever have. It doesn't make sense financially to sit on it.

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