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    I taught DS to count/abc etc so I don't think child care is needed for that at all - every kindergarten teacher I've ever spoken to said all kids need to know when they start school is to be able to put their shoes on, open a lunch box and wipe their bums! Reading/writing/name writing they teach at school

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    I taught DS to count/abc etc so I don't think child care is needed for that at all - every kindergarten teacher I've ever spoken to said all kids need to know when they start school is to be able to put their shoes on, open a lunch box and wipe their bums! Reading/writing/name writing they teach at school
    Mine have all been encouraged to know how to at least recognise their own name, with the ability to write their name being ideal, and able to tell a teacher their address and parents phone number. However, I have a friend who's kid was writing and reading before school and they thought she was gifted. She's not, she's just a kid of average intelligence who was taught these things by her mum before school. Her mum really struggled to find that she was in one of the lower reading groups for her year. My kids aren't taught to read or write before school, and they seem to struggle with it a bit at first. My oldest is in year three, and in year one she was tested for reading recovery twice but missed out each time. Something clicked in her head in year 2 and she is now in a 3/4 composite class and in the top reading group in her class (both years) and getting 100% in her weekly spelling tests. She just brings me the words and says 'asks me to spell them' and she gets them all right without trying. She reads for an hour before lights out every night. My middle child is currently enrolled in to a literacy support program at school as she is behind her peers, but I am confident she'll be like her sister and will come along in leaps and bounds. She actually had a much bigger advantage with her pre-school teaching jolly phonics etc. before she started school but it didn't make any difference at school. I suspect that my youngest will also need literacy support in the early years at school, but I am not worried at all.

    Personally, I think some form of daycare/school is beneficial for a child before they have to go 5 days a week every week, the kids who don't go at all tend to struggle with the transition to school more than kids who have attended pre-school/day care...but I think one or two years is enough, they don't need 4 years in daycare to be prepared for school.
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    My ds1 never went to child care and he was amazing when he started school. He got socialized by just going to the playground and through family. He is excelling at school and not struggling a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose&Aurelia View Post
    Socialization of children via playgroup, childcare, gymbaroo, library time etc is very important from 3yo. Till then it's not that important.

    If you are happy to provide a rich and varied home life then time with a primary caregiver is wonderful

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    Absolutely agree. I don't use child care but my 3yo and 1yo attend playgroup twice a week and kindergym once a week plus we have play dates and outings to the library, etc. I also do play dough and painting etc at home. I did enrol 3yo in a pre kinder daycare thing earlier this year but pulled him out after a couple of weeks as I couldn't see the cost was justified as it was very similar to playgroup etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleButterfly4 View Post
    I definitely think children from 3.5yrs should go to some type of childcare. Yes for socialization but also for educational side of things. It makes it a lot easier if they know their numbers to at least 20 and all abc and at least look at know how to write their name by the time thru go to primary school.
    Being that I've worked in childcare and also as a teacher aide, you can tell who went to childcare and who didn't. Of course occasions get a child or two who are delayed for other reasons but that's an exception. It definitely helps the child adjust a lot better to going to school and sit to listen to a teacher as well as follow rules and directions.
    They can learn all of that at home.

    Dd1 has just turned 3 and has started showing interest in writing her name so I'm encouraging that. She can also count beyond 20.
    She will sit and listen to a story and can follow rules and directions, these are things that they can learn in any environment.

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    Tell your MIL to get knotted.
    As I've mentioned in previous threads about speech delays, my DS was in full time child care (as in 9-10 hours a day, 5 days a week) from the age of 8 month until he was about 3.5 years old and he still managed to have a profound speech delay. He had a vocab of about 20 words at age 3 and most of those were half words. Child care is not a cure-all for speech issues.

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    As a year one teacher I often can't tell the difference between kids who have been in Childcare and those who haven't. I wouldn't listen to others. Go with your own instincts.

    My boys went to family day care and Childcare - but that was because I'm a single mother who had to go to work. If I could've kept them home with me I would have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    Tell your MIL to get knotted.
    As I've mentioned in previous threads about speech delays, my DS was in full time child care (as in 9-10 hours a day, 5 days a week) from the age of 8 month until he was about 3.5 years old and he still managed to have a profound speech delay. He had a vocab of about 20 words at age 3 and most of those were half words. Child care is not a cure-all for speech issues.
    And on the flip side my DS1 went to family care (2 kids there so no more socialising than a kid with a sibling) and is about to be tested for G&T because he is years above his peers.

    I tend to see Childcare as an alternative to the parent caring for the child (for work, study, needing a 'me' day) rather than sending them there as a learning/socialising environment.

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    Neither of my kids went to childcare. They did go to pre prep (kindy) (qld) the year before school (5 day a fortnight program).

    Before pre prep I took them to mothers group, playgroup, swimming etc.

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    I use childcare with my youngest now, but my first two didn't go to childcare. They just went straight to preschool (9am-3pm, 2 days per week) when they turned 3.

    Absolutely no problems when they started school (socially or academically) however we've always read to them at home every day and encouraged them to practice writing/alphabet/counting etc at home which I believe makes a huge difference.

    Just thinking about the abilities of kids in my eldest's class last year, they were so varied, but I noticed that (in most cases) the children who progressed more quickly with their reading, had parents who read to them every night since they were little.

    The children who had gone to preschool at some stage (some had just attended for term 4 in the year before starting school) seemed to be more familiar with the expectations and routine of school. I couldn't really notice any difference with those who had gone to childcare up to age 3 and those who hadn't though, for example there were children there who had been in childcare full-time since they were babies, but their social skills were still lacking (eg. continuing to annoy classmates when it's obvious they're getting upset etc).

    Also, just on what Busy-Bee said: my eldest two (who didn't attend childcare) started talking very early and have never had any speech issues, whereas my youngest who has been in childcare since she was 11 months started speaking later than them, and has trouble with her pronunciation of certain sounds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theboys&me View Post
    As a year one teacher I often can't tell the difference between kids who have been in Childcare and those who haven't.
    This is what DD1's teacher told me too.


 
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