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    Quote Originally Posted by kezanazz View Post
    I have a 4 year old driving me insane at the moment so please clarify...
    Do you mean you think having water innovation and research is a luxury?

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    No... Just having whole public service bureaucracies dedicated to their existence when basic human services are being cut...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    yet no-one is putting up any alternatives to obtain budget savings.
    HOw much savings are you talking about, give me the figure you think we need to save.

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    You do realise that nothing would function without people working in the public service right? Who would do your passport? Who would keep your family safe from crime? Who would save your life in the local hospital? Who would keep our borders safe? Who would do your tax returns?


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    No... Just having whole public service bureaucracies dedicated to their existence when basic human services are being cut...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    No... Just having whole public service bureaucracies dedicated to their existence when basic human services are being cut...
    But surely you see that cutting the public service water research is putting a basic human need at risk

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    But we needed to cut the water research budget to buy more army planes that can't fly, to renovate the lodge and to get better accommodation for the Melbourne ballerina.

    I can't believe you guys can't see the bigger picture!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Of course innovation is important in an economic sense. But if we have to have a whole government department in order to encourage innovation then it won't matter because we're already fu@ked. At a time when the budget strings are tightening... And we can't have everything....To have a luxury department like this is rather spoilt.
    - meals on wheels funding being cut... FTB b being cut... No newstart for under 30's... When we still have BS government departments is a disgrace.
    This is all dependent on believing that we have a budget emergency that needs immediate rectification. I don't believe this is the case. I don't for a second believe that Australia is in such an awful financial situation that we all (well, actually the poor) need to suffer immensely to see it rectified. It is a load of bull that has been spun so this government can pull out these awful draconian measures which IMO they want to bring in for ideological, NOT economic reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    It is a load of bull that has been spun so this government can pull out these awful draconian measures which IMO they want to bring in for ideological, NOT economic reasons.
    Yes This is about the current lib govt's own personal opinions that the poor don't do 'any heavy lifting' and the usual 'my tax dollars' rubbish espoused from the most privileged who to put it bluntly, have no bloody idea.

    And the sad thing, is so many bought these lies that Aust was somehow is massive debt and we needed Tony to save us from the poor *read lazy* of this country. Even in this thread so many have commented we are in financial trouble despite many offering credible figures that we owe 12% of our GDP in comparison to most developed nations that are sitting at 75-230%!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Ok I will support the department of put-millions-into-researching-something-that-may-or-may-not-affect-our-kids-in-their-lifetime-instead-of-following-existing-commonsense .... If you agree to abolish all FTB and cut the single mothers pension in half.

    Ok extreme example ... And I'm not anti research... (Just anti government bureaucracy) my point is (and this is not directed at you) ... I hear a lot if whinging going on regarding the budget (much if it justified) yet no-one is putting up any alternatives to obtain budget savings.
    I and many people I know have suggested time and time again, that big corporations for a start should be taxed correctly, and not be subsidised by the government.

    As for science not being important, that is nonsense. IMO.

    Also the CSIRO made money, and invented some of our countries best inventions. WiFi etc.

    I can't believe people don't think it's important. It honestly astounds me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    This is all dependent on believing that we have a budget emergency that needs immediate rectification. I don't believe this is the case. I don't for a second believe that Australia is in such an awful financial situation that we all (well, actually the poor) need to suffer immensely to see it rectified. It is a load of bull that has been spun so this government can pull out these awful draconian measures which IMO they want to bring in for ideological, NOT economic reasons.
    Absolutely agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lili81 View Post
    But we needed to cut the water research budget to buy more army planes that can't fly, to renovate the lodge and to get better accommodation for the Melbourne ballerina.

    I can't believe you guys can't see the bigger picture!!!


 

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