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    I can see this from both sides, as I see how when a person has been out of the workforce for a long time it would feel incredibly overwhelming to venture back. I was a SAHM for over 2 years when my current job came up and I put every road block I could come up with in the way to make it impossible for me to take the job. Honestly it just seemed way too hard.

    But despite earning a very high wage DH has never been comfortable being the sole bread winner so I reluctantly went back. And it wasn't that bad.

    I don't agree with much about this budget, and I think there are better ways of achieving what they say they are trying to achieve (when in fact I think they are just window dressing mean things in the guise of a social conscience) but I do think more people (frankly women) who have been out of the workforce for a long time need to either return to work or stop receiving some payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    If there is a special needs clause, I haven't heard of it. There has been no mention. And as you know, my DS2 majorly struggles with school as it is. I can't imagine how he would cope at before and after school as well.

    You;d be amazed what kids can do. my sister never in a million years thought her autistic son would cope with after school care - he hated it at first but he coped fine in the end.

    A lot of kids hate after school care, not just special needs. But they still have to do it (I hate the idea of it as well).

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    With posts as generalised as yours, you usually miss out on the 'Stories', there are always exceptions to every rule. Like those who really want to work, try really hard to get a job, but just can't. Not everyone on the dole is a bludger just trying to get free money. Your post just sounds very 'young' to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by meilaa View Post
    About this no new start thing, as a young person I'm incredibly happy. I work as a supervisor at a coles store while I study and see many people my age continue to enjoy free money without a single attempt at getting a job in the past couple years since finishing school.
    My partner works full time as a cook and brings in little more than many others our age who don't work or study.

    Many people our age have been brought up with the idea that money is free. Their parents and grandparents had government aide due to their low income status but they want expect a full wage.

    "In the six months applicants for Newstart and Youth Allowance do not receive income support, they will be required to undertake government-funded job seeking programs.

    Newstart applicants will receive one month of income support for every year they worked before applying for the dole and exceptions to the six months of no income support include parents, young people unable to work more than 30 hours a week, part-time apprentices and Disability Employment Service clients.

    People who refuse jobs will also be penalised with their income payments withdrawn." (http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...yment-benefits)

    I see this as being very fair.

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    90% of the time? Really? Where is your evidence? Or did you just pull that number out from what you have witnessed at your local Coles?

    Quote Originally Posted by meilaa View Post
    If they could prove their case was a real issue and not just the issue of laziness (as it is 90% of the time) then I believe exceptions should be made.
    To be fair though I think Australia's welfare system is far to generous. If you are unemployed you should be given the bare minimum to scrape buy on. It's not fair that without working you can have a new phone, nice new tv and a decent car when many people working have almost no disposable income and struggle to live.

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    [QUOTE=meilaa;7785588]If they could prove their case was a real issue and not just the issue of laziness (as it is 90% of the time) then I believe exceptions should be made.




    I'm really offended by that statement

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaDiDah View Post
    I was a teacher and those were my hours... Everyone puts in different amounts of time.
    Yeah, it's a choice not your mandatory can't get out of it work hours. If you have kids in after school care you can get home 3 days a week around 4:15pm (staff briefing/stuff on other day). I have to drive an hour home and I can get home by that time. You just need to bring work home to do once kids are asleep. Easy choice really as it means more time with the kiddies!

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    How does he cope at school? Does he have an aide or anything? And does he find school difficult too and does she notice if it better, worse or the same when he is in for that long?

    This doesn't really apply to me anyway because I'm about to star back at work. But just thinking, that often these huge sweeping law changes, some people will fall through the cracks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    You;d be amazed what kids can do. my sister never in a million years thought her autistic son would cope with after school care - he hated it at first but he coped fine in the end.

    A lot of kids hate after school care, not just special needs. But they still have to do it (I hate the idea of it as well).

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    He doesn't cope some days, other days are better. He has had an aide but only for a few hours a couple of days a week. He's now in high school and has found the transition really difficult. He has to go to holiday programs and he usually hates it. Somedays so much that she has to come and get him.

    Before he started my sister would have flown to the moon twice before thinking he would cope at after school care. But her husband lost his job and she had to work. So he went to after school care. It took a while but he got there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grooviechic35 View Post
    Yes I got one of these also that they are waiving the payment
    I thought the co contribution hadn't come into effect yet but Drs were finding numbers already down so were sending texts to let patients know

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    If there is a special needs clause, I haven't heard of it. There has been no mention. And as you know, my DS2 majorly struggles with school as it is. I can't imagine how he would cope at before and after school as well.
    There will be a special needs clause when I become PM

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