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    FTB Part B is now to be scrapped for all recipients once their youngest turns six. It is currently paid until the age of 18. That works out to about $3,100 less per annum for those claiming the highest rate: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/cust...-payment-rates
    Massive hit when your income is $30-$40k per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBe View Post
    FTB Part B is now to be scrapped for all recipients once their youngest turns six. It is currently paid until the age of 18. That works out to about $3,100 less per annum for those claiming the highest rate: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/cust...-payment-rates
    Massive hit when your income is $30-$40k per year.
    I think I agree with this cut especially for 2 parent families where one parent doesn't work/works part time. When your kids are in school then you can make use of before and after school care and work.
    - the exception being cases where the kids are special needs and won't cope with the extra after school care. I would hope that extra support is offered to thise families but rather under the disabilities umbrella.

    Or is there something I am missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I think I agree with this cut especially for 2 parent families where one parent doesn't work/works part time. When your kids are in school then you can make use of before and after school care and work.
    - the exception being cases where the kids are special needs and won't cope with the extra after school care. I would hope that extra support is offered to thise families but rather under the disabilities umbrella.

    Or is there something I am missing?
    What about people in areas where there is no oosh care, I grew up in the country and there was nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Cheese View Post
    What about people in areas where there is no oosh care, I grew up in the country and there was nothing.
    Yes, no before or after school care here.

    But also- we should now have kids in care from 7am- 5:30pm? Because that's how long it would be for me? Another burden on the child care industry (as a whole, including oosh etc). Surely it's already stretched thin enough? Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just keep FTB b?
    Not to mention the poor kids... Aren't we allowed the joy of being home with our children any more? Let us raise our own children without forcing people back to work where a) jobs are scarce anyway and b) it just creates a whole new problem of not enough care places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Cheese View Post
    What about people in areas where there is no oosh care, I grew up in the country and there was nothing.
    Family daycare, shift work, or just not work/work part time if that is what they want, but cut costs so they don't need FTB b?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomsie View Post
    Yes, no before or after school care here.

    But also- we should now have kids in care from 7am- 5:30pm? Because that's how long it would be for me? Another burden on the child care industry (as a whole, including oosh etc). Surely it's already stretched thin enough? Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just keep FTB b?
    Not to mention the poor kids... Aren't we allowed the joy of being home with our children any more? Let us raise our own children without forcing people back to work where a) jobs are scarce anyway and b) it just creates a whole new problem of not enough care places.
    Who works 7-5:30 5 days per week? Eeekk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Family daycare, shift work, or just not work/work part time if that is what they want, but cut costs so they don't need FTB b?
    Genuinely:
    Where are these jobs coming from?

    Where are the care placements coming from? I think you might remember the absolute hell I had putting my boys into care a couple of years ago. It's no better.

    What is the motivation for mothers to give up time with kids for a pay that the majority of will go to daycare fees?

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    Who works 7-5:30 5 days per week? Eeekk!
    Teachers!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anjalee View Post
    I've never know any different than HECS and it scares me that my kids may never know any different to having to pay an absolute fortune for an education
    I definitely think that if students had to pay up front, barely anyone would go to Uni and people would have protested it much harder and boycotted Uni in protest. The fact they defer 100% HECS makes people feel like it's 'free', which is dangerous because it's actually a huge amount of money by the time one is qualified (these days usually 5 years whereas it used to be 3 in most care). And that's the scary part. They know people will still go to Uni 'on credit' but the reality of the expense will come later when it's too late as the debt is already earned. My parents generation had (and still largely have) a 'Uni or nothing' attitude, but this will need to change and young people (or anyone who wants to study) should really think twice about it or at least look much more closely at the reality of starting salaries, how long it will take to earn a decent amount in their career, what the market trends are in their field, where the jobs are/or aren't, when they might want to have kids, how much exactly each month they'll be paying back etc etc. I didn't think about any of that to any great depth.... My parents were just Uni Uni Uni as the best and only option, but it was for them! It was free!

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