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    I'd argue the independency of some (most) media on this list TBH.

    I find best to go and get the facts (actual facts) then read a few different analysis/opinions on the matter.

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    I've been flat out with work and kids so haven't seen a lot but is anyone in the media up in arms over the money for the chaplaincy program? I am livid at that but feel like there are so many other things upsetting people in the budget it doesn't get much attention.

    Is that right? It's one issue that makes my blood really boil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I've been flat out with work and kids so haven't seen a lot but is anyone in the media up in arms over the money for the chaplaincy program? I am livid at that but feel like there are so many other things upsetting people in the budget it doesn't get much attention.

    Is that right? It's one issue that makes my blood really boil.
    Same here it is soooo stupid and pi$$es me of but I haven't read anything about it.

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    Im annoyed about the chapliancy program cost. To me its just funneling money back into the churches and TA pushing his personal agenda

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    I had tafe call me yesterday as I was on the waiting list for a teachers aide course starting in July. They said due to funding cuts they will not be running it till *maybe* January and that the price will probably be going up.

    I was already worried about how we could afford the $1010 the course was going to cost (that was discounted for people who had not completed a cert 3 before it was normally about $1500 I think) so now I'm worried.

    I want to improve myself to get a better job but this budget is making it harder for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrswhitehouse View Post
    I had tafe call me yesterday as I was on the waiting list for a teachers aide course starting in July. They said due to funding cuts they will not be running it till *maybe* January and that the price will probably be going up.

    I was already worried about how we could afford the $1010 the course was going to cost (that was discounted for people who had not completed a cert 3 before it was normally about $1500 I think) so now I'm worried.

    I want to improve myself to get a better job but this budget is making it harder for me.
    I work in HE (a university) and the changes proposed (remember they need to get through the Senate.) won't or rather shouldn't effect any students prior to 2016.

    If the changes do happen, you will be able to put the fee on HECS, which you cant currently do.

    Don't get me wrong, I hate the proposed changes (even though they would open up more job opportunities for me), so Im not sure if any if that makes you feel better, but realistically if the cost go up before 2016, then Id get that checked out as I'd say they cant do that.

    My boss sent me this link yesterday though I haven't read it as it was my day off, but should have some info that might help. https://education.gov.au/students-2

    fair enough its a federal government site, but it contains the proposed changes at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Who's watching qanda with joe hockey?
    About 5 minutes of it.... How can anyone get answers though when Joe himself is so confused by his own budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allie Pallie View Post
    I work in HE (a university) and the changes proposed (remember they need to get through the Senate.) won't or rather shouldn't effect any students prior to 2016.

    If the changes do happen, you will be able to put the fee on HECS, which you cant currently do.

    Don't get me wrong, I hate the proposed changes (even though they would open up more job opportunities for me), so Im not sure if any if that makes you feel better, but realistically if the cost go up before 2016, then Id get that checked out as I'd say they cant do that.

    My boss sent me this link yesterday though I haven't read it as it was my day off, but should have some info that might help. https://education.gov.au/students-2

    fair enough its a federal government site, but it contains the proposed changes at least.
    Hi Allie I worked for a uni/tafe in Melbourne (on mat leave) and that kind of thing is really common in the tafe sector. The way they set fees and the factors around whether or not a course runs or not is very different to the higher ed sector their fees are not regulated like higher ed which is why you find quite varying prices for the same course across different tafe institutions.
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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-1...g-says/5463008

    NATSEM principal research fellow Ben Phillips has studied the effects of the budget and says it is "not fair at all".

    "We'd estimate around 1.2 million families that would be on average around $3,000 a year worse off by 2017-18, whereas the top income groups - so the top 20 per cent of households - would have either no impact or a very small positive impact," he told PM.

    Mr Phillips found that a single parent of two school-aged children who was looking for work would lose $4,243 a year or 14.8 per cent of their disposable income by 2017.

    And they would still lose that much even if the parent found a job that paid $40,000 a year.

    A couple with two school-aged children who both worked to bring in a combined income of $60,000 a year would lose $6,350 or 10.9 per cent of their annual disposable income.

    And even if their household income climbed to $90,000 a year, the loss would remain the same.
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    And the scrariest thing is how much that impact on low income earners will be compounded by rising food, fuel, everyday living expenses. I don't know about everybody else, but for me the bills already seem to be rising far above usual inflation, and the same amount of groceries costs far more.

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