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    When does this all go through the senate? I want to cry every time I hear these stories. People are already struggling so much and these changes if they go through, are truly horrifying. I cant even begin to imagine the hardship. I almost shed a tear every day when I think of these struggling families and the direction this country is heading

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    Quote Originally Posted by mummytomy2boys View Post
    I'm sorry I find it hard to understand why anyone would rely on others ( when I say others that includes the government). The only person you can rely on is yourself. Work hard, always have a plan B and an ace up your sleeve. If there's no jobs where you are move, I have.
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    Believe it or not there are actually people out there that cannot rely on themselves. I know, shock horror . What if you suffer from chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, debilitating digestive problems, depression, domestic violence, anxiety and on and on and on and on. It's great that you helped yourself but I think you have a very blinkered view of the world around you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothel View Post
    Believe it or not there are actually people out there that cannot rely on themselves. I know, shock horror . What if you suffer from chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, debilitating digestive problems, depression, domestic violence, anxiety and on and on and on and on. It's great that you helped yourself but I think you have a very blinkered view of the world around you.
    I agree my sister had a really hard time at school and played up big time until it became aware she has dyslexia. She dropped out of school to work in a factory sowing clothes at 14. She worked up to 36 weeks pregnant with her first in a stinking hot factory at the age of 31 after never being unemployed. While pregnant she was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and then lupus (sle) there was no way she could go back to the factory. She has since had her 20+ year relationship break down and has also developed anxiety and depression. Nothing is black and white it's a struggle for her to get out of bed. She had worked dam hard all her life and done the best she could always! Hard work = success ha!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busy-Bee View Post
    I genuinely high-five you for your determination and strength that you displayed to enable you to study and succeed. However, I am going to re-post the picture below for something to consider. Whilst it might be an extreme example it is nevertheless still very applicable in Australia to many, many hard working people.

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    I usually don't like to refer to anecdotes but here goes...
    My brother worked for a builders' union for 20+ years, mostly in administration capacity and conducting training courses on construction site safety (he is a qualified builder). He quit because of mental health issues the job was giving him (in his words "he went mad" - but he says that in good humour). He was on a disability payment for a while and then got a job as a delivery driver through a scheme that subsidises employers for employing long term unemployed people. As soon as the subsidy ran out he no longer had a job. The thing is that his employer had diddled his superannuation (and that of other employees) so my brother dobbed him in to the tax office who are taking a great interest in this employer. This left him with no references. My brother is extremely hard working and takes an enormous amount of pride in his work. He is probably the most honest, trustworthy person I've ever known. He busks sometimes and the family joke is that he probably declares the few dollars he earns busking to the tax office. However, at 57 he is now finding seeking gainful employment incredibly difficult because he hasn't got a reference. Hard work, integrity, qualifications, etc does not immediately equate to earning a living/gainful employment. He and his wife are well established in their community, own their own home and have a strong social network. He lives in a large city as well, why should he have to move? What would that achieve?

    Right on! The world is not a fair place where everyone who is decent and hardworking will succeed.
    This budget is ridiculous.

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    *cries into her cup of tea whilst simultaneously banging head against wall*

    No seriously, I have never been so saddened by Australia's politics. Waahh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maternidade View Post
    I'm sorry I find it hard to understand why anyone would rely on others ( when I say others that includes the government). The only person you can rely on is yourself. Work hard, always have a plan B and an ace up your sleeve. If there's no jobs where you are move, I have.
    I know I lack empathy, but that's based from my own personal experience. I'm not a pollie who has sat in my ivory tower my entire life. If I can do it why can't others? Start from the ground up. Who really wants that life anyway? It doesn't have to be that way.
    I rely on centrelink right now and myself (I work too), because now I'm a sole parent. I didn't get married and have my son thinking that would be that case.

    With almost 50% of marriages ending in divorce and women still being the main care givers after marraige, you think all of these women are lazy?

    Moving isnt so easy, I have court orders in place for my son. I can't leave. And for many to leave their area, costs money, and could isolate them and remove them from supports that actually enable them to work.

    Many unexpected things happen in life and at all different stages. Some are lucky as they are very financially secure and can weather it better. Some despite being secure financially, quickly lies that security just trying to survive.

    I also don't know why you wouldn't want to have empathy for others. It just means you are unwilling to see anything but your own POV. To me that's pretty sad.

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    Did anyone else read this letter to Joe Hockey? 'What $7 means to me'

    The Mum who wrote it has done an amazing job to get out of a terrible situation, and still has a great deal of understanding and empathy for those who are in situations like she was.

    It was great to see her take the time to share her story and approach Joe Hockey, rather than just saying "I managed to better myself, so should everyone else".

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    Thank you for allowing the Mods time to clean and re-open this informative thread so to that end, may we respectfully ask that the thread remain on topic and free from posts which are deemed 'not in the spirit of Bubhub'.

    Many members have gained a lot of insight from this thread and therefore it would be a shame to have it permanently closed. Cheers.

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    Thanks mods! I for one have learned a lot from this thread (and many others on bub hub). Can I open it up again and ask if anyone knows when this goes to the senate and what needs to happen to force a double dissolution election?

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